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You'd have gotten way more responses in the main thread, but welcome. Panthers fans have kinda been in the same boat as Jags fans. Who will be the first off the roller coaster of mediocre play at best, who knows? It's kind of ironic that you'd consider adopting Carolina as a Jags fan, as both were added to the league at the same time. The level of winning has been a disappointment for both franchise, I'd say. We've been in it for the long haul though.

You're talking mostly developmental guys anyway from most drafts. I don't think that as fans that we can say with any surety that guys like Roy, Hartsfield or Stanley Thomas-Oliver haven't improved. They had limited ceilings to begin with, and we really don't know where they started from. Just because they may be perceived as JAG, doesn't mean that they haven't improved is all I am saying.

Most of our guys haven't been in the league long enough to make judgments on, much less intimate that they aren't developing. They're probably capable depth even at this point. I'd say that YGM is coming along nicely. Keith Taylor Jr. Is probably paying above his draft status. No one is saying that the players will be All-Pros or anything, but there is little reason to say they aren't developing. https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/27/pff-panthers-horn-chinn-jackson-henderson/

Yeah, apparently some fans think he's a bust already. The Raiders declined his 5th year option (which is always telling).

Name another what?

Google is your friend. https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/news/ole-miss-quarterback-matt-corral-new-heisman-favorite/lGaRCTMVT63W/%3famp=1

The competition hasn't even started in earnest yet, let's make that clear. But if we were to judge last week, Darnold would start. Baker is going to have to show better ball security, and better accuracy. Pushing it down field is nice, but it's not the only way to score.

I don't have expectations for Corral to start. I'm not impressed by the fact that Corral was passed over. Hell, a bunch of QBs were passed over. I also am not sure why so many Huddlers--including some smart ones like you--are so sure of Mayfield, or assume that he's a lock to beat Darnold. I say that to say that in my opinion it's more likely that the beginning pecking order is Darnold, Mayfield, then Corral (as essentially a redshirt).

FIFY

I wouldn't exactly consider it "unreasonable." I see why others do. The circumstances are different, for sure, and they must be taken into account. But, remember, Wilson was never seriously in the Heisman discussion, much less leading the race, at any time during any season. I think that Huddlers also overlook the fact that Corral suffered an injury right before the draft season began. The kid was on ice for the better part of the entire draft season. All that being said, I don't want him to start before he is absolutely ready. But I am a believer in his long term viability as an NFL starter, without hesitation or qualification.

Not arguing the point, just adding for accuracy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11066889/amp/NBA-legend-Bill-Russell-dies-88.html RIP, my man.

Sounds like simple Cam lamentations to me. But you can find solace in that Brady jersey.

The answer is on the roster.

True. But let me tell you this. Even in limited reps, fans will see the difference, 1000 percent. Rhule might not, but others will. Mayfield better step up his game. It's admittedly early. The competition hasn't even started yet, but Mayfield's display yesterday didn't justify him being here.

Here's a hot take: When the pads come on, the perceived gap between Corral and the other two will appear to get smaller and smaller. His superior speed, quickness and athleticism will become obvious. The natural smoothness of his movements will become purely evident when juxtposed against the display of Darnold and Mayfield .

@rayzor is a fan.

Uh, no. But the competition begins in earnest on Monday

Nah, man. He's just beginning. He was damned good in college. He can't help the system that he played in. There is no evidence that he's a bad decision maker. Give him time to develop and some consistent time to actually create a body of work before criticizing him.

Those were the days!

You do know that he had some foot soreness, right? Same foot.

OK, now that I've got your attention. Since Tepper (or is it Rhule) has taken over, we've all noticed that they've tightened vids and such in camp. Basically, they've taken something akin to a Russian style of approach to the dissemination of vids, pics, and maybe even the news itself inasmuch as they are able. I mean, don't get me wrong, there is still independent media--this is America--but the control of what we see is real. And, it may not be a coincidence that they "acquired" Darin Gantt and Bill Voth...think about that... Being that we no longer get some of the perspectives that we've gotten before, I'd like to ask that anyone that has the time to sacrifice in that Carolina sweltering heat at Wofford College, to consider going there with a focus--a game plan, if you will. Though most of us can't promise you anything but pie and a generous amount of goodwill (with any amount of surety), we'd appreciate it if you attempt to be our ears and eyes on the ground. Take the tact of old-style journalists and run with it! Those play-by-plays are much appreciated! Moreover, those glimpses--those side missions--of players that aren't exactly being reported upon with any gusto are welcomed as well. We don't need anything fancy. We can't require anything. No super human efforts are warranted. Just little descriptions and observations here and there. This is but a humble request from a fellow Huddler who wishes that he could be there. fug this unnecessary overreach by the Panthers FO, and the unholy corroboration by the NFL and DMCA. The evil empire doesn't seem to understand that more perspectives enhance the fan experience, and excites and energizes the fan base. On the real, a little pushback can go a long way towards making "camping" what it used to be. Thank you, all!

Fair enough.

It can also buy INTs. Just saying.