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Do you know how juvenile and disingenuous that you sound? It's ironic that you're suggesting that I'm off my rocker from your response. But, do you!
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Did you not intimate that Robbie played like dog sh¡t all season and turned on the fans and suggest that that is unforgivable, saying that you're off his bandwagon permanently? Or maybe you're just talking about Brown, even though you said "too". Did you not suggest that Robbie did not take personal responsibility, the implication being that he doesn't care? If you're going to say something, say it and own it. I do. You literally used the term "turn on fans" and "lack of personal responsibility thing", "play like dogshit all season", and now you're intimating that I'm talking out the side of my neck which is ludicrous. 1. Robbie didn't play like dog sh¡t all season. He had a rough couple of weeks. For the season he was slightly below average at worst. The issue is that he played under his potential and didn't earn his money. 2. Robbie absolutely took accountability for his drops. 3. Robbie got upset that fans booed Darnold when he came in to replace Cam. A couple of plays later they were cheering when Darnold found Shi Smith for 63 yards. So, yes, Robbie got emotional about it: “Like, that’s not real fans, you know what I’m saying?” he added. “For the culture that we’re building, we don’t want no fake fans. We want diehard, loyal fans that’s gonna ride or die for us. Simple as that.” You might not like what he said, but that's hardly turning on the fans. And, to be honest, some fans are downright hypocritical. I've always felt that booing your own team is uncalled for. Personally, I never boo the home team. I might say some expletives out of frustration, but that's just me. I support the guys and wish for the best even when they're fuging up. I responded to the words that came out of your brain, not mine. Stop trying to gaslight!
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"Turn on the fans" is a bit hyperbolic. I also take issue with you trying to act like Robbie doesn't care. That's bull. I'm not going to hate on a player for being emotional. The team played like dog sh¡t. Robbie had an extremely bad week of drops--maybe two if you want to look at it that way--but that hasn't been his calling card. He was pressing on a bad team where the QB(s) couldn't maximize his skill set for most of the year. Hell, even Teddy didn't do it in 2020 from my perspective. I'm gonna tell you the same as I've told all the Robbie haters; if he has another bad season (which he was really still average in 2021 per PFF), then have at it. Until then, you're just looking like a petty fan with an unrighteous ax to grind.
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At this point, we're just going to have to see what's what during the season. There's really no more need to debate it. No one is going to convince me that it's a bad thing that we were the #2 defense in yards allowed. Will that make us winners? Hell no. But it's better than being #31 in yards allowed. It means that there is hope, if some things can be cleared up. Certainly part of the equation is limiting offensive turnovers. We must do that to keep leads and win, and it can't be overstated.
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https://www.espn.in/nfl/stats/team?seasontype=2&view=turnovers https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/which-nfl-team-has-the-most-redzone-turnovers-this-season
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I would say that this really proves little. The elephant in the room is the turnover differential. Our offense was ranked 29th.
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In a game, yes...70.5 air yards...
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Which also begs the question...Is Baker's arm as even as strong as Matt Corral's...our QB3?
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Let's leave this here. Pay attention to the contestants, two of which that I know are in the NFL, the last one being our presumed QB3
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230.5 mil, 160 guaranteed. Crazy money. https://www.nfl.com/news/kyler-murray-cardinals-agree-to-terms-on-contract-extension-through-2028-season
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For about two seconds, I was like "Why is Scot posting old sh¡t?" Then I had to look at it a little closer and listen again. That's terrible. I hope that something isn't going on cognitively with Bayless. Hopefully it's just a case of him being an underprepared tool.
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Is this a joke, or editing trickery?
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Don't hate on me because I can see things that you can't.
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I took liberty with your post, and showed you how easily you could be speaking of Baker Mayfield. Mayfield's attitude has been cited as a reason the Browns axed him. McAdoo's firing had reasons beyond actual football reasons as well. If you can give Mayfield grace who was effectively fired from his QB1 job by the Browns, then you can give McAdoo grace for being fired as the HC from the Giants. He is no less of a potential successful OC of the Panthers than Mayfield is a potential successful QB of the Panthers.
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I just think that there are too many stories about Mayfield's demeanor, and not enough stories about his actual play. I feel that too many fans, particularly Panthers fans (now that he's ours) are being baited by those with an agenda to focus on everything but Mayfield's actual game on the field of play. I mean, whether Baker Mayfield is Mr. Rodgers or an asshole simply doesn't matter as long as he's not doing anything unethical or illegal off the field. This is not to say that you can expect to be an asshole and be inferior at your job without consequences up to being demoted, without a pay increase, or fired). But, normally, if you're good--especially great at your job, people will be more likely to overlook your attitude, if they consider it at all.
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When I first read Bucky Brooks' title on the league page, I was like, "we have to be in that article." I was right. To me, we could certainly be one of the teams in the NFL that could outplay the prevailing narrative that we are part of 2022's bottom feeders. Of course a lot will have to go right, but that's been the case for long time. Perhaps Brooks is overstating our position just a wee bit, as we are maybe in the worst division in the NFL, but I think that we are the most team that's likely to surprise in the NFCS. "The Panthers are a quarterback away from emerging as a playoff contender this season. Matt Rhule's team has enough blue-chip players on each side of the ball to go toe-to-toe with the heavyweights in the league, but the embattled coach must pick the right quarterback at the end of training camp to give his team a chance to earn an elusive playoff berth. Baker Mayfield, acquired in a trade last week, is the front-runner to win the starting job even though he'll enter camp without any experience in Ben McAdoo's system or chemistry with the Panthers' playmakers. Sam Darnold is a bigger and stronger prospect with solid intangibles, but his on-field struggles make it hard for the coaching staff to trust him as a long-term answer at quarterback. With a defense that has top-five potential to support the winner of the quarterback competition, the Panthers' chances of securing a playoff berth for the first time since the 2017 season hinge on the team's ability to pick the right QB1. If either quarterback can deliver consistent production for a Carolina offense that features a handful of big-play weapons, this is the team that could follow the Bengals' blueprint to contention." My question (like I already don't know what the responses will look like) is: Do you believe that we are closer to a so-called "CHAOS" team referenced in the article, or are we closer to a team in chaos? Does our legitimate talent on both sides of the ball (and, yes, we do have it) and our presumed QB1 Baker Mayfield make us more primed to upset the applecart of prognosticators everywhere, or are we just lame ducks to be easily picked off at will by most of our competition? https://www.nfl.com/news/2022-nfl-season-one-chaos-team-in-each-division
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But it would seem that details of their complicity may possibly come out anyway from the women who refuse to settle the civil cases (or in any criminal matter that may pop up from some unknown). It sounds like to me that they're just trying to cover their asses so that when/if any details come out they won't be financially liable to the women who've settled.
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former Panther Rashard Anderson dead at 45
top dawg replied to Captain Morgan's topic in Carolina Panthers
It was the most somewhat interesting, highly undesirable experience that I've ever voluntarily endured. I guess that I've been lucky. I was clean as a whistle! Unsolicited advice: start prepping a few days ahead with light foods, clear drinks (preferably water), and opt for the pills if your insurance allows it. This relatively small inconvenience is exponentially better than developing colon cancer. -
People can focus on Baker's attitude all they want. I don't think for one minute that the preponderance of FOs in the NFL declined to trade for and pay Baker what he was owed in 2021 because of his "fiery" personality or desire to win. It's his deficiencies on the field--the INTs, the missed throws, the missed reads that had him out there withering on the vine of the offseason market. No one was going to overpay for that type of fruit. If Baker wants better, he'll have to play better. That's the Baker bottom line!
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Vikings Wire writer taking potshots at Panthers
top dawg replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
Well, to be fair, we didn't have to play the Lions last season... -
Vikings Wire writer taking potshots at Panthers
top dawg replied to top dawg's topic in Carolina Panthers
It's not about caring what he thinks TBH. But I understand that not everyone will see and appreciate the humor in it all. I was amused by (in no particular order): 1) The writer's lack of understanding of the dynamics of our situation. 2) The fact that there may be elements of truth in what he is saying 3) His refusal to acknowledge that just like our moves could ultimately reap similarly bad things of the recent past, that it could also reap great benefits. 4) His omission of MC9 (which apparently is not just a thing by some here [*zinger* for the bastards ] 5) Especially the irony in crying about us not wanting to pay the price for his QB that he must REALLY want gone. 6) That he's writing about us at all (especially considering that his team provides plenty of fodder). There are probably other amusing elements to this on different levels yet to be mentioned for anyone that cares to explore them (or not). It's simply just fodder for discussion. -
Well, this was mildly entertaining, if not unsolicited. "It seems like only yesterday the Carolina Panthers were reportedly 'laughing off' any potential interest in Minnesota Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins. "Now, they’re heading into the 2022 season with fellow castoffs, Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield... “ "Is it funny now?" "The rehabilitation project for Darnold, who saw more ghosts than Haley Joel Osment with the New York Jets, hasn’t gone according to plan. The Panthers still only won five games for a third straight season, and Darnold was still seeing Casper. "Meanwhile, Mayfield is coming from a roster with an embarrassment of riches on the offensive side of the ball—reliable offensive line, two Pro Bowl running backs, a stud tight end and a receiving tandem with eight combined Pro Bowls between them. "What more does one man need to be successful in the NFL?" "Cousins is obviously a cut above both Darnold and Mayfield, and he gets lambasted daily, even following a season where he threw for 4,221 yards, 33 touchdowns and only seven interceptions. The Vikings’ “problem” would be another team’s treasure." https://sports.yahoo.com/panthers-dismissal-kirk-cousins-proof-151426693.html Well...maybe the grass isn't greener up there in Minny either. I certainly don't think a Vikings fan has a right to be clowning (notwithstanding that terrible pass by Darnold right to their guy).
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The Carolina Panthers are owned by a Dan Snyder clone
top dawg replied to tiger7_88's topic in Carolina Panthers
I think that adding Fitterer to the mix was an excellent decision. Now diluting the GM's power by placing him under a coach who doesn't have very much professional experience might not be good, but it's year three and the moves have been pretty good, if not intriguing, compared to years one and two of the Rhule era.