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We are a solid OL, and legit QB away from being a playoff team, not playoff contender but team. The issue is those are the hardest positions to come by which is why I'm irritated we passed on Fields at #8, I think he'd be better here, and with the OL struggles he has the athleticism to save himself early, not to mention IF we truly wanted to run 30 times a game, having a run threat at QB to keep backside pursuit honest who has a great arm would've been nice.

I'm not sure how we win another game if we can't beat a 1-5 team without THREE OF THEIR BEST PLAYERS on offense. I mean, we scored THREE points in 60 minutes, that is UNHEARD OF even for BAD teams. We suck, it's not a surprise as anyone with a set of eyes should have had concerns about Sam, Gase or not, it's like when we lost Simien in 2016, there was no film to prepare for, now there is on us, same thing with Kyle Allen, and TB; teams got film and after that it was a wrap.

Someone who's been paying real attention, it's been reported several times that he is eligible to play, and since the ALLEGATIONS are not of a violent / felonious nature they can't place him on the exempt list.

The Clemson fans will pour in, and let the team start winning consistently, the ''virtue signal'' crowd will be back too. People still love Big Ben, so I don't wanna hear the hypocrisy, as it stands these are non-violent / non felonious allegations since he is yet to be convicted if he ever will be. Big Ben was accused of RAPE, not misconduct, harassments, assault but RAPE, Brett was sending eggplant pics, so let's not act like this is new territory for NFL QB's it's just a black one. https://www.sportscasting.com/revisiting-ben-roethlisbergers-sexual-assault-allegations-in-the-metoo-era/

That is what people need to understand, TB may not have connected deep often, but he was / is WAY more consistently accurate and that allowed DJ / Robbie / Curt to excel after the catch. Sam's accuracy is ALL OVER even on routes 15 and in, too far, behind, low, etc.

Sheena Quick on twitter, and I also want to say Rappoport made reference as well.

It's more absurd for draft picks because you don't have to account for their salaries as rookies, so teams are willing to give up more draft capitol. Watson, is 40M on the cap in 22' & 23' then down to Mid 30s in 24' if memory serves when I looked at his numbers the other day. The question here is how will the guarantees be handled, what will HOU be accountable for and what will we be accountable for. My surface understanding is they would pay his bonus money, and we would assume the base salary annually (see the T2G trade to DEN for reference) So that would drop the cost for us a bit financially. My estimate is two 1sts, a mid rounder in 23', and potentially a player or two, I saw D Jax / Thomas' names thrown around in a mock trade.

They already advised for him to have a longer career he can't take the constant beating as a LB'er. He needs to be moved around as he has been. That's how you get the most out of his ability.

He was let go because he was out all camp, and did not take the vaccine. Not excusing the cut, BUT there was a viable reason, the ONLY other non-vaccinated player was Miller, and guess what....he contracted COVID. Team health stand-point they made the smarter decision, Perryman went on to get vaccinated so THAT he COULD be signed, same as Cam recently.

Because we did not, and have not drafted a true LB'er since Rhule has arrived. Chinn doesn't count.

This ^^^ think about when Osweiler had that crazy contract from HOU I think, then was traded to CLE who later released him. I'm fuzzy on the full details, but that is the premise being explained here.

Sam is showing the same issues / concerns evaluators had when he came out of USC, he IS TURNOVER prone, point blank period. He'll wow you with some throws, and then he looks completely inept.

He's also MISSING OPEN reads, he holds the ball to long, the protection versus NYG was better overall. Joe Brady even mentioned it in the presser last week, and I paraphrase '' he's not SEEING it'' in regard to Sam. The INT to Bradberry the check down was open underneath and I am taking into consideration it was 2nd and 24, BUT we were also in scoring territory. Secondly on the backside dig Robby was open as well for likely the 1st. It ''feels'' like Sam does not grasp the concept of where we are in a game, he doesn't seem to have a ''feel'' for when to press the issue a little. It was 3-5 at the time and a FG gives us a lead, and forces NYG to do something to take it back. Two weeks in a row bone-headed mistakes by a guy that has plenty of starts / experience -- calls back to back timeouts last week, and throws for intentional grounding in the endzone, which I partially put on Brady, know your QB, call a run or a screen backed up and punt IF needed.

How could you say compromising our future when we don't have a QB, and this upcoming QB class is one of the weakest in comparison to others... We have no future to compromise at the moment.

To be fair they referenced his arm talent, not him as a player directly. The team got desperate once Stafford, and the initial items around Watson came up. Factor in draft buzz of Fields ALSO going before 8th overall, they pulled the trigger on a guy then could sell, former 3rd overall pick, only 23 at the time, and from a publicly faltering organization. Most people bit on that, anyone that watches the NFL and not just the Panthers was EXTREMELY skeptical of this move, I wanted Fields at #8 even after the trade, because IF Darnold sucks you already have someone in line to move forward with.

I would say there was a level of ego / naivety in the sense that AT THE HIGHEST level they could get by with JAG at the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN THE NFL. I will give them credit for rebuilding the defense as quickly as they have and I fully anticipated we'd start to add on the offense as it was in better shape than the defense. This coming off-season is that time; however I think the FINALLY understand that you can't do anything worthwhile without premium talent ala investing a high draft pick or signing / trading for a viable franchise QB which is a situation that basically never presents itself.

He can't be put on the exempt list unless it's felony / violent crime. These are all civil lawsuits, and the only criminal aspect is half are complaints not charges.

I wouldn't say we're a mess, the offense is a mess, specifically Darnold's regression.

No, we jut need a real NFL QB.

This ^^^ Soon as they cut Cam, and passed on Fields I knew these guys didn't know wtf they were doing.

Rhule said it himself in the presser yesterday.

He tends to wear Jordan gear as a Carolina guy, so with #23 (STO) and #24 (Bouye) taken, the Olympics #9 of Jordan fits the M.O., this was my guess / reasoning when we signed him. I got it right.

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Tepper wanted Fields

This shows the ineptitude of the decision makers, I appreciate the emphasis on defense, but Darnold even aside from Gase at best as meh. The FO talked about QB bust rate, but then trade multiple picks for a BUST QB , can't make it up