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They already advised for him to have a longer career he can't take the constant beating as a LB'er. He needs to be moved around as he has been. That's how you get the most out of his ability.

He was let go because he was out all camp, and did not take the vaccine. Not excusing the cut, BUT there was a viable reason, the ONLY other non-vaccinated player was Miller, and guess what....he contracted COVID. Team health stand-point they made the smarter decision, Perryman went on to get vaccinated so THAT he COULD be signed, same as Cam recently.

Because we did not, and have not drafted a true LB'er since Rhule has arrived. Chinn doesn't count.

This ^^^ think about when Osweiler had that crazy contract from HOU I think, then was traded to CLE who later released him. I'm fuzzy on the full details, but that is the premise being explained here.

Sam is showing the same issues / concerns evaluators had when he came out of USC, he IS TURNOVER prone, point blank period. He'll wow you with some throws, and then he looks completely inept.

He's also MISSING OPEN reads, he holds the ball to long, the protection versus NYG was better overall. Joe Brady even mentioned it in the presser last week, and I paraphrase '' he's not SEEING it'' in regard to Sam. The INT to Bradberry the check down was open underneath and I am taking into consideration it was 2nd and 24, BUT we were also in scoring territory. Secondly on the backside dig Robby was open as well for likely the 1st. It ''feels'' like Sam does not grasp the concept of where we are in a game, he doesn't seem to have a ''feel'' for when to press the issue a little. It was 3-5 at the time and a FG gives us a lead, and forces NYG to do something to take it back. Two weeks in a row bone-headed mistakes by a guy that has plenty of starts / experience -- calls back to back timeouts last week, and throws for intentional grounding in the endzone, which I partially put on Brady, know your QB, call a run or a screen backed up and punt IF needed.

How could you say compromising our future when we don't have a QB, and this upcoming QB class is one of the weakest in comparison to others... We have no future to compromise at the moment.

To be fair they referenced his arm talent, not him as a player directly. The team got desperate once Stafford, and the initial items around Watson came up. Factor in draft buzz of Fields ALSO going before 8th overall, they pulled the trigger on a guy then could sell, former 3rd overall pick, only 23 at the time, and from a publicly faltering organization. Most people bit on that, anyone that watches the NFL and not just the Panthers was EXTREMELY skeptical of this move, I wanted Fields at #8 even after the trade, because IF Darnold sucks you already have someone in line to move forward with.

I would say there was a level of ego / naivety in the sense that AT THE HIGHEST level they could get by with JAG at the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN THE NFL. I will give them credit for rebuilding the defense as quickly as they have and I fully anticipated we'd start to add on the offense as it was in better shape than the defense. This coming off-season is that time; however I think the FINALLY understand that you can't do anything worthwhile without premium talent ala investing a high draft pick or signing / trading for a viable franchise QB which is a situation that basically never presents itself.

He can't be put on the exempt list unless it's felony / violent crime. These are all civil lawsuits, and the only criminal aspect is half are complaints not charges.

I wouldn't say we're a mess, the offense is a mess, specifically Darnold's regression.

No, we jut need a real NFL QB.

This ^^^ Soon as they cut Cam, and passed on Fields I knew these guys didn't know wtf they were doing.

Rhule said it himself in the presser yesterday.

He tends to wear Jordan gear as a Carolina guy, so with #23 (STO) and #24 (Bouye) taken, the Olympics #9 of Jordan fits the M.O., this was my guess / reasoning when we signed him. I got it right.

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Tepper wanted Fields

This shows the ineptitude of the decision makers, I appreciate the emphasis on defense, but Darnold even aside from Gase at best as meh. The FO talked about QB bust rate, but then trade multiple picks for a BUST QB , can't make it up

Should've never traded for him. Stand pat and draft a QB at 8, trade up IF needed shouldbhave been the play. QB is too important not to take one at the top when available.

LT Brady LG Elflein C Paradis RG Erving RT Moton This may be the best lineup, move Miller and Daley to backups alongside Brown, and Scott.

Billy Marshall is horrible.

The portion I bolded I personally believe is coming, IF he sticks to his turn around track record (paraphrasing below) we are on course. Rhule Rough Summary Of Program Rebuild Timelines: Year 1 - Below .500 getting the base established Year 2 - Acknowledgeable improvement, around .500 (I estimated personally 7-9 wins as I wasn't a huge fan of the Darnold move, and knew we were weak on the OL) Year 3 - Marked improvement Bowl Game appearance, winning record. In our case a playoff appearance / 10 - 12 wins (I think that is possible with a better OL)

I'd go back to the play where Quez Watkins beat our depth Safety Sam Franklin for 56 yards, to me that is what gave PHI life / momentum; because they had been stifled all day, to me they just waited for Darnold to implode as the game went on as they sat on everything intermediate to short. Which they could do, due to their IDL - Hargrove / Cox

If memory serves his natural position is Safety, he was the more rare Safety convert to Corner. Here's some combine reference -- https://www.nfl.com/prospects/tre-flowers/3200464c-4f00-0000-f164-81779f9b8482 Came out of Oklahoma State as a Safety.

A lot was made of the ''Rhule blamed the loss on the defense comments''. I took some time to align my thoughts aside from the frustration after the game, and this is what I settled on. 1) The INVESTMENT in the defensive side of the ball FAR exceeds that of the offense since Rhule became coach, and this is whether Marty, or Fitterer was the respective GM at the time. (11 defensive rookies added between 2020 - 2021) 2) Burns, Brown, Reddick, Henderson, Shaq*, Horn*, are all 1st round picks // Jackson, Chinn, Gross-Matos, are 2nd round selections 3) Offensively we feature when healthy some of the best skill players at WR & HB - CMC*, DJ, Robbie 4) What has seen little investment is the Offensive Line in recent years - Paradis was a vet signing off a broken leg in 2018, Cam Erving is a 1st round JAG who's been on CLE, KC, and DAL prior to CAR, Elflein has played out of position most of his career after being a Center in college, former 3rd round pick, John Miller another 3rd rounder on his 3rd team, and Moton a 2nd rounder that was worthy of a FT / extension this offseason. (Since Rhule, we've only added 2 offensive lineman in 2 years via the draft, Brady Christensen in the 3rd, and Deonte Brown in the 6th; compare that to 5 DL draft additions since 2020 - Brown 1st / Gross-Matos 2nd / Roy 6th / Nixon 4th / Hoskins 7th) 5) Darnold is a WIP, young enough to get better, but far from a finished product, former 3rd overall pick. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ With those 5 items in mind, I don't think Rhule was so much as saying the defense is to blame, so much as he is saying ''Look at the defense we have assembled, with the investment we've made there we should be able to get the stops when we need them'even if the offense is faltering''. I think the staff knew coming into this season the OL was a weakness, as was QB in ways and perhaps in the draft they didn't want to reach when they had higher grades on the likes of a TMJ, or Tremble who were 2nd and 3rd round picks. It's important to remember we are 2 years into a rebuild, at this point all of our best offensive skill players are locked in, and the majority of the defense is under contract through 2022 (Jackson, and Gilmore pending). We also have considerable cap space, and flexibility. With those things in mind I think we see the OL attacked more aggressively this off-season via free agency as we just came off a Covid-19 strapped salary cap this off-season while also having to sign several players at key positions. TL;DR - It's not that he's blaming the defense, they simply have a HIGHER expectation than the offense given the investment there, and talent level. QB and OL are the most IMPORTANT aspects of an offense, we saw that with Cam who actually had a pretty good OL in 2015 with a bunch of average receivers (Ginn, Old Cotchery, Funch, Philly). Right now QB, and OL are the hands down WEAKEST part of our team, expecting them to close out games isn't on the table, not as currently constructed. However; based on current construction the defense has that expectation, it's why they built it the way they did.