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The way Bryce plays right now, he won’t ever have a 4 int day. You have to take chances and push the ball to throw picks.

Howell is a 5th rounder that is more athletic and has a stronger arm than our #1 pick. And he has balls. We better hope this is all Frank holding bryce back. Doubtful though.

I long for the days when people criticized our QB for being pissed off with a losing mentality.

Wtf I wasn’t defending Bryce?

Who knows. Everything is broken right now. Just hoping Brown will be allowed to call the offense soon. Maybe Frank has screwed this up. It’s basically throw your hands up in the air time right now. Everything is difficult on offense.

How did Teddy Bridgewater not teach everyone that completions don’t matter, but the type of completion is what matters. Bryce is basically handing the ball off dinking the ball around.

Ruin him? The coddling for bryce is on another level.

We took an unathletic, 5’10”, limp armed quarterback with the first overall pick in the nfl draft.

I’m not sure Bryce has the arm to push the ball down field, and he’s playing like he believes that too.

Everyone having a good time?

I’m pretty sure CJ is healthy, and he can run with anybody. Jefferson won’t surpass 70 yards. He will have 140 PI yards though.

I just want to see that we didn’t draft Teddy Bridgewater with more processing power.

If only we could draft receivers. It’s early obviously for Mingo, but it is painful seeing other rookies flourishing for other teams. We are due for a diamond in the rough. It’s been a tough couple decades aside from DJ, but he was a 1st rounder.

As a Burns defender against some really bad takes on here… I agree. I think back to Kris Jenkins. As great as Peppers was, peak Jenkins took the d-line to another level. Peak Jenkins was one of the best linemen I’ve ever seen, even if it was short lived. Sacks are great, but a man who can destroy the interior of the pocket? And still chase dudes down at 6’5”320? Give me that all day.

Always a possibility.

Morgan, if competent in a GM role, is about as perfect a fit/story as you can get. We loved him as a player, and how cool if he was integral in building consistent success from the front office.

I always expected him to learn the first half of the season and to get reps the second half. He’s physically built already, so just a matter of him learning mentally. We shall see.

OP, it sounds like you would have enjoyed if we just ran it back with Wilks and co, who did just what you are describing with a power run game to put the QB in the best possible situation. Wilks of course had Darnold, yet managed to finish 4-2. A lot of people will excuse away that success, but it was success. I’m 37, so maybe we are just two old farts, but I saw Wilks philosophy as a smart approach in a league with only a handful of elite QB’s, with high odds that you won’t have one of those guys. It was fun watching us physically dominate with a power run game, but people don’t want that. They want to win the Mahomes way…but finding a Mahomes is damn hard. People don’t think about that part.

Figured we would run more 2TE sets considering we kept 37.3 TE’s on the roster.

What I find interesting is the inconsistency of narratives: Clearly our interior line is bad, and guys haven’t been getting open. So Bryce is excused because of that. And that’s fine because it’s not untrue. And yet so often, other players aren’t given that grace, when in a similar spot. It’s just odd to me, when we had a franchise QB (Cam) who narrative blamed and didn’t make excuses for, while the opposite is the case for Bryce right now. Both lacked help. One ate poo for it. One is being coddled because of it.

I lean towards how you feel, but I have to acknowledge our interior line is a joke right now. I do like some of what Sanders has done in the passing game, and naturally that’s where he looks better because he’s far away from the guards who are making everyone look bad at the moment.

Specifically regarding drafted players; this staff/front office needs to exercise more patience with these draft picks. Don’t draft players, particularly those you know are a project, then cut them the next year after 1 season. That’s dumb. They may not be good, but you should build in giving at least two years to every player you trusted to draft. Brandon Smith comes to mind. He’s not on a roster, so he probably doesn’t have “it”, however, he was CLEARLY a project type athlete, and you quit on him after a year? Shouldn’t have drafted him in the first place.

I can only speak for myself, and the situation you describe would piss me off for sure, but peak pain only happens after a period of hope. We finished last year strong, allegedly improved our coaching staff, and drafted a #1 overall QB goldenboy… …and now this. It’s crushing, and has me actually contemplating future fandom. I feel like I’m only rooting for colors I like and “carolina” being in the name right now. My Dad not having a “favorite team” and just electing to watch good football for fun…well it’s making a lot of sense after these past 5 seasons.

Yeah and Bryce’s numbers dropping didn’t matter, but Howell’s stock was destroyed by it just a year earlier. The draft is definitely narrative based, and that’s something Chris Simms talks about a lot even though he is hated because of his Corral take around here.

Was that his PFF grade? I joking said 3.7 or something during the game as hyperbole! Wow.