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Man say it again for the doubters in the back lol.

Why many of us probably including you and I want Fitterer out of here. We could have resigned Foreman and had a nice 1-2 punch for much cheaper.

Since you asked for a positive he has played better than last season albeit a small incremental increase.

All of us scratched our collective heads at the signing and the cost. I was optimistic due to his wide receiver ability.His catching ability out of the backfield has been okay. At best he should be our 3rd down back until Tarik Cohen gets up to football speed. Then let the best man play. Chuba Hubbard should clearly be the starter.

I believe the reason that got out from Ben Johnson was legitimate. Ben balked at this job because we didn’t have a roster and QB he felt good about, and he felt he had unfinished business in Detroit. While I hate Tepper meddling, and I think he’s the worse owner in the NFL, I don’t think that instance was his doing.

Sooo you believe a 1-4 team unde Rhule , that is now 0-8 under a supposed all-star coaching staff should have been better under Wilks that went 6-6? That’s delusion lol seek help. Rosters matter. Training camp matters. An interim coach can only tweak his scheme during the season. Injuries matter. That’s why we sucked against Brady and Evans, We were missing both starting corners. That’s why our defensive sucked against Detroit. Give Wilks some resources and he could have potentially thrived. Look at San Francisco’s dismantling of Dallas on Sunday Night Football last night. Guess who was the defensive coordinator. You got it! It was Steve Wilks. Sean McDermott was a defensive minded coach under Rivera. I would take his success here in Carolina any day. All you want is a chance. We don’t have that right now.

And not drafting Puka Nucua the Rams rookie breakout. We need some scouting department changes too.

Puka Nakua, CMC, DJ Moore all offensive talent an offensive genius could have really used to be game changers here in Carolina. Fitterer has made our last two GM’s look like Canton inductees. At this point I don’t trust Fitterer to send off, pick in the draft, or trade any talent. I think the next GM should make the call.

This was not sold as a rebuild. Owner and GM both said we would be competing for division titles this year. In one breath you discredit Wilks as a Rivera disciple but Sean McDermott was a Rivera disciple too. He was cast away as a failed Jimmy Johnson disciple but McDermott has found plenty of success. Dominant defense and above anverage offense with a good QB. The formula could have worked with Wilks in this weak division. Tampa is winning despite having an average at best QB. No one else could have taken the 2022 Panthers a quarter into the season (given us an identity) and land us in the playoffs. The man was given lottery chances at best to succeed and get the job. Wilks didn’t have a training camp to maximize his pieces or pickup players that would have helped us grow. Stop with the narrative it fell in his lap. He gambled with players that were not as good as Brady and Mike Evans and lost. The reality is Tepper and fans like yourself never would have been happy with Wilks even if we made the playoffs last year. The narrative would have been he hurt our draft status with a waisted year. I bet you Wilks wouldn’t be 0-4 or if you include the preseason (0-7) if he was coaching this team with the resources allocated to Reich.

Thank you! I was scrolling in the thread wondering if anyone would acknowledge DJack is a corner that is coming off an Achilles injury that relied on athleticism. It definitely takes time for a corner or wide receiver. Im hopeful that this year Jackson will learn to read his keys better, which will make him a smarter corner. As 80 to 90 % of his quick twitch explosion returns, he will hopefully be a better player.

Yes but they could beat this well resourced Frank Reich team that is 0-5 when you include preseason. Steve Wilks has never been given resources, and you can argue he has never been given a fair shot. Wilks would have had this team putting up a better showing. Wilks team last year would have beat this squad at almost a 90% clip. This team lacks an identity. If your response is Wilks team wasn’t good then this poo here that Tepper and Fitts put resources behind is an abomination. The play calling was better last year with Darnold and that speaks loud and clear about Reich and his offense so far.

Nah I have to say I disagree. Ownership and the front office really believed they were close. The Panthers underestimated the job Wilkes did with Matt Rhules leftovers. Tepper and Fitterer felt if Wilkes could go 6-6 with Baker, PJ Walker and Darnold, without a training camp, or his own personnel, then a competent rookie could potentially make us even more competitive. Setting yourself up in the preseason to say you’re really close to being competitive isn’t a smart move unless you truly believe it. Tepper and Fitterer dropped the ball by letting Wilkes go. Despite Wilkes stubborn mistakes against Tampa, he did an exemplary job, considering the circumstances he inherited.

Yep great post. It amazes me how no one acknowledges how Wilkes gave us an identity as a tough nose bust you in the mouth team. Yet he we are half a year later and we can’t stop the run and our offense looks abysmal. Sadly so many of us thought the grass was greener on the other side, but I can tell you this patch of poop ain’t it.

Latest reports are saying he is expected to play, which I am thankful for. This is going to come back to bite us in the butt. I may be in the minority here but Burns has played out of position his entire career here and excelled. At edge he’s gonna put up monster numbers. If he gets to 17 sacks and challenges for the sack lead this year Burns is going to want Bosa + money not 28 million a year. I don’t see why Burns wouldn’t be able to flirt with 17 sacks playing his natural position while Houston and Barno line up on the opposite side. His initial burst is unreal.

Not with that pending lawsuit. Teams are staying away.

Exactly if you aren’t playing to win then what the freak are you playing for!?!

300 million in profits based on your life story and you haven’t received a red cent from the movie profits? I don’t know if this is true, we will see, but anyone in the Huddle that says they wouldn’t potentially sue from that arrangement is not being truthful.

We shall see. I believe he doesn’t have any guaranteed money after year 2 so hopefully he comes out balling and makes it look like a contract steal.

Agreed, the only argument Burns camp can make is that Burns has been playing out of position his entire career and made it work. He should really thrive in the TJ Watt role due to the complete 3-4 switch.

He had 14.5 sacks last year. I’m sure his value will be discussed in Burns contractual discussions.

O well…. He may as well take the “L” on this one lol Thats definitely trashing the competition

Man his chances are beyond slim.

Good points in this thread. Money brings the monster out of a man. Money doesn’t change your mindset if it’s not already focused on making a difference.

Bro I tried to poke holes in your post because I hate the Saints but I legitimately couldn’t. Very informative and legit. I don’t want the Panthers following that formula but I can see how it’s worked for so long while providing quality players.

I was just think about this yesterday. Rhule was like the girl we all dated and asked ourselves WHY afterwards ???? We lost our swag our identity our moxy our desire to like football Dumbest head coach hire in Panther history.