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He caught 50 passes in 2019 as a rookie. That’s why the Panthers signed him instead of Foreman. To Miles Sanders own admission he hasn’t been catching quite that many lately but he says he expects more than the 25-30 passes per season he caught in Philly. He was interviewed on Panthers.com and talked about pass catching and the style of offense we will run. It’s pretty good. Give it a listen.

If we get Chandler Zavala I would consider this draft a big success. Hopefully a corner thereafter.

You missed my point. Based on your post with a 3rd round success rate being about 35% why trade up for a player and loose resources. We could have gotten him at 93 and picked up another possible boom or bust in the 4th round our defense could use. I don’t hate the pick and I hope we get lucky. I dislike the loss of resources (loss of 4th).

A better defensive end/ edge (Byron Young) went to the Rams 2 to 3 picks before us. It’s possible our front office wanted Young and had to settle for Johnson. Trade ups take time to be approved. Every analyst and expert questioned this pick. If you honestly watch his highlights you can clearly see he is a project. Questioning the pick is very realistic. He has good measurables so I hope most of the experts are incorrect but there were better picks available. Plus we lost our 4th for this young man while having holes on the roster. I have no idea why you don’t see that as a problem.

Fittz needs an S2 test. He dropped the ball on this one.

Blind trust will get you burned. This guy would have been available at 93 in every multiverse and 100 draft simulations yet we lost a draft pick for him.

Ojulari the edge player or Avila from TCU. We need a premium guard until Corbet comes back then you can move BC to swing tackle . Brady played great at guard but Avila would create running lanes and protection from huge interior defensive tackles.

He literally speaks directly to the CJ Stroud leaked score without saying his name and says it’s baloney. We are getting Bryce and I’m happy about that but the efforts to try to wish failure on a young man or laugh at the phony scores out there are beneath us. We are fighting internally amongst ourselves over guys that wish us no harm. They only want to live out their dreams as pro athletes. I hope Bryce turns out to be the best of the bunch by leaps and bounds but I wish the other QB prospects successful careers. Well…..okay careers if they end up in the NFC South.

I’m glad we didn’t trade with Arizona at 3. You think it’s been an insane mad house lately. Imagine we secured the pick at 3 with the question marks and drop off in quarterback intangibles. Excuse my use of the phrase but the huddle would have gone absolutely Ape$h#t !!

It’s a percentile test. If the score is true it means 18 % of all football players that have taken the test has scored lower than him while 72% have scored higher. Cognitive test aren’t graded like a grade school test.

What’s funny about a guy failing?

Right and based on what I heard it’s not a test score. It’s a percentile meaning if the top score is 99, Bryce scored in the top 1% of all football test takers at 98. If the top score is really 100 it’s still top 2 percentile.

Appreciate the break from the insanity posts.

Yeah bro I was in the group that wanted Stroud but anyone that is good at reading people can obviously see Fitt has an awful poker game. It was almost as if he forgot to be evasive. It happened about 3 times throughout the presser. I’m not Ms.Cleo but the pick seems to be Bryce.

Yep ditto your thoughts above are my thoughts. Rooting for both guys as long as Atlanta doesn’t pick up one of the two. I realize Bryce is amazing. Is he head and shoulders above Stroud ? I’m not sure about that. I have definitely seen enough tape to feel comfortable about Bryce’s size because I’m almost convinced he has eyes in the back of his head. His pocket presence and awareness is that good. My only concern now is his ability to play under center effectively. For a number 1 pick you have to be effective in different pro sets. Shotgun 95% of the time makes our offense less effective. I guess we will see.

I felt the same way until this week, when I started accepting what the experts are projecting with our 1st pick. Bryce looks like the guy. I spent a lot of time researching him this week. Despite the size limitations I came away impressed. Found a pass that went 65 to 66 yards in the air. I also saw how he uses his small frame to avoid hits and get down. He reminds me of Warrick Dunn, in that regard. Give him a chance bro, I think he’s coming to Charlotte whether we like it or not. I was impressed and I think he’s the best QB in the draft. Here’s to hoping that translates.

Really ? The Falcons offensive line play improved in 2022 in a very similar fashion as the Panthers. The Falcons skill position group has improved too. Drake London and Kyle Pitts catching passes with a 1k rookie running back (Tyler Alligier ) coming back with more confidence and experience in his 2nd year. Cordalle Patterson is a good 3rd down back. AJ Terrell and Okudah at corner with Bates roaming at Safety. Improved pass rush. They have a top 10 pick at their disposal for more talent too, while we use our top resource on our future QB. I truly believe we are underestimating them if we think they won’t be a challenge. I think the Saints are going to fall on their face, while the Falcons improve and scare us for the better part of the season.

Agreed I didn’t want to say it and get in a debate with anyone but I agree 100%

Thank you. Very well said and simplified.

Yeah I think it’s fair to say most of us aren’t worried about joint injuries that’s why I didn’t think the analysis closely fit the concerns with Bryce. Shoulder injuries are a concern and damage from blunt force. Also parts of your debate regarding Aaron Donald and Bryce in a head on collision still leaves some questions. You mentioned rib issues that’s exactly what we dont want. QB’s lose effectiveness and accuracy with rib injuries and potentially games.

Your questions raised (quoted) are exactly why it’s questionable to gamble on a billion dollar decision. His little head and every part of his body will snap back like we’ve never seen before.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chadorzel/2015/11/08/football-physics-putting-g-forces-in-perspective/amp/ @rayzor

Did you look at the physics article on force on a smaller object above ? That’s the baseline. Physics. A Yukon hitting a Prius vs a Yukon hitting an Explorer. Other than that there is nothing to predict what will happen to Bryce at 190 pounds.

@rayzor this is the closest we have to Young’s stature being a problem. The ops statistical information is relevant to a certain extent, but this article on G-Force is a better example of why I’m concerned.

I agree with most of your take in the previous post about height. It’s a concern not being able to see over the line unless in Shotgun. It limits your offense. There’s no evidence to support Bryce getting hurt because he will be the first of his stature in the modern NFL. Saying Bryce’s weight and slight stature is not a problem based on the premise that there isn’t any evidence does not fit here. It’s never been done, that’s why there isn’t evidence.