CPantherKing

Your facts are glaringly wrong. Bad research and bad math. Brush up on your HBCUs.

Starting is your bar? Low bar. I've already posted the answer to your first question, and even included day 2 on another topic. I don't think you know, unless all you are looking at is 2021 starters (13%). (sample size of 1 outlier season) 8 of the NFL franchises have QBs beyond day 2 as their franchise leading QBs. You tossed out day 2 as well. So, you wanted to boost first round picks or you think there is no chance Aqeel Glass can go in the 3rd round? Only 18 franchises have QBs in the 1st round as their franchise leaders. Not very dominant. If you knew more than 2021, you wouldn't have made this post. Doubt you would ever highlight an NFL season with 10 to 16 starters that were not selected on the first 2 days of the draft. You likely think these seasons never happened. Of the Panthers 11 QBs to lead the team, 5 of them have not been selected on the first 2 days of the draft. On average, how many NFL starters during the SB era are outside the 3rd round for an NFL season? I've given you some hints. You could probably guess it with the facts I have just given you. As for your second question, HBCU starting NFL QBs are rare. So, when scouts notice one and put them on the NFL draft radar, you better take notice. The last 3 all went to the SB. 2 of them won the SB. Since the opening up of the passing game in the late 70s, these have been the only 3 HBCU starting NFL QBs. 3 for 3 on SBs is pretty good, right? Rare finds are hard to come by. Do your research before you think you know. You're welcome.

The top 15 QBs are much closer than the media positions it for their big boards. The only QBs worth getting in this draft are Aqeel Glass, Jack Coan, and Kaleb Eleby. So, why spend the 6th pick on a QB. Huge waste of draft capital. These QBs are late round 2 to 5th round talent. None of the QBs are capable of producing at a 1st round expectation out of the gate. Less risk and bigger reward with Glass and Coan.

He's great if you just want to attack the middle and right side of the field. Too bad this isn't college defense anymore. Whipple took 3 seasons to figure out how to scheme around Pickett's deficiencies. If Whipple were a head coach in the NFL, he wouldn't take Pickett.

If you want a starting QB who struggles to attack the left sideline, then just get Mitchell Trubisky. He'd be cheaper and the outcome will be the same. Not to mention the Panthers could use the 6th round pick for a franchise player.

Fitterer is the one who puts the chips on the table. If he doesn't want it on the table, it won't happen. He just can't cut players or sign players unless Rhule agrees. So, for anything to happen Rhule and Fitterer need to agree. That's why everything is moving so slow with personnel changes.

I only go with players in the 1st round that demonstrate top talent, competitive edge, intuitive thinking, years of exceptional leadership, and a passion/dedication to the game that they have carried with them since before they stepped on a high school field. These are the only players I have confidence to have 10+ years of production. There are only 11 players in the my top 40 talent pool that make this cut. 1. Devin Lloyd ILB Utah 2. Tyler Linderbaum C Iowa 3. Jermaine Johnson OLB/Edge DE FSU 4. Aidan Hutchinson DE Michigan 5. Kyle Hamilton S Notre Dame 6. George Karlaftis DE Purdue

You're right. That sign seemed to solve the Panthers problems in 2021, we just cant see it yet. Hopefully, they make Rhule stare at it all practice long and fire the idiot who created that sign. Nothing saids champion mindset or winning culture like a sign to negatively reinforce a pattern of self-deprication.

We need WRs who can be playmakers before we worry about a WR coach. Moore and Anderson were the 3rd most targeted receiver duo in the NFL. They finished as the 27th best duo in the number of targets needed to score a TD. They finished 31st in targets needed for a first down. They did finish 1st as a duo among the league in one category - dropped passes. DJ Moore was 6th in targets, 9th in 1st downs, 12th in receptions, and 61st in receiving TDs. The Panthers were in the middle of the league in pass attempts. They would have been in the middle of the league in completions too if they get rid of the drop squad. An average passing game made worse by receivers who could not produce. Darnold is by no means a good QB, but fans need to realize his receivers are worse. They will make almost every QB in the NFL look bad. Receivers on both the Jets and Panthers have been able to catch at a high % from Darnold with the exception of Moore and Anderson.

I would do my best trading the 6th and any player outside of CMC, Shaq, Abdullah, or Chinn to get Devin Lloyd and Tyler Linderbaum instead of using the 6th on Pickett. If I were forced to take Pickett at 6, then... Christensen and Moton at OT, sign Trai Turner for OG, draft Zach Tom for OG/OC/leadership, draft Jack Wohlabaugh to direct the OL at C and take leadership role, and draft Andrew Steuber as OL depth. Sign Tyler Vrabel as UDFA for OL depth. Sign Kyle Long as veteran OL depth/mentor. Cut ties with Miller, Jordan, Daley, Scott, Erving, Paradis, Tecklenburg and Efflein. Moton - Tom - Wohlabaugh - Turner - Christensen as the starting OL Long, Steuber, Vrabel, Brown, Horton as depth. Long, Vrabel, and Wohlabaugh come from NFL families with great work ethic. OL fixed and ready to go. Strong, smart, and deep enough to win games and get a team into the playoffs.

I wish I could hope for the IT factor. A QB with IT doesnt have 4 bad seasons and then flash their final "contract" year when they get an IT TE in Batholomew, and a featured IT receiver in Addison.

Seems like a lot of coaches that are auditioning for a HC position with the Panthers when Rhule heads back to college.

What about his Trubisky like limits on his throws down the left sideline with more ball wobble and float? Mid field and right side are great. OC at Pitt limited his passes to the left to rollouts all the way to the sideline before he squared up his shoulders. His INTs are primarily on his left side, and he will run a majority of the time and not look to pass if he is flushed to the left. Trouble holding onto the ball too on runs and when defenders swipe at his throws from behind. He can't grip and pull the ball down with just his throwing hand. Defenses will figure him out quickly like Trubisky. I wish there was a way to just let Pickett focus on the right side of the field in the NFL. He'd be hard to stop.

Imagine a smaller more fragile Cam Newton playing QB. That is Matt Corral. Great arm. Flat throws. Lacks touch. Needs receivers with a large catch radius. Tends to throw high to the sidelines. Likes to run into contact and needs to learn to slide.

If you want a flag magnet OT that throws defenders into your QBs knees and destroys your RBs running lanes while failing to pick up stunts because he chases defenders down the line, then Penning is the OT for you. If he were not lacking a great deal of discipline and awareness I'd take him too. Do you think Rhule can coach him up with discipline and awareness?

Jake Delhomme telling Ty Law as he's standing there dumbfounded, "You bit on my fake!!!" He made his money by moving the defense around, inviting the blitz, and getting defenders to bite on his fakes.

So, here are the top 15 QBs in the draft and the direction of their draft stock/NFL interest. Malik Willis: Falling; Kenny Pickett: Falling; Desmond Ridder: Falling; Sam Howell: Falling; Carson Strong: Falling; Matt Corral: Falling; Bailey Zappe: Falling; Aqeel Glass: Rising; Jack Coan: Rising; Brock Purdy: Falling; Cole Kelley: Rising; Chase Garbers: Rising; Kaleb Eleby: Rising; Skylar Thompson: Falling; EJ Perry: Rising. The pool is tightening up. I expect we will see 10/11 of them drafted.

Aqeel Glass and Jack Coan will be ready to step in when the starters go down in year one, and they will play with the mindset to never sit on the bench again and play for the team. Players gravitate to these QBs. They can work with any coach. 2022 is the year for QBs with intangibles and not measurables. Stating this for months. Kaleb Eleby is a possibility as well.

Yes, the talent! Can we have 2 receivers just like him that we hold on to for 10 years? 60TDs and 20k yards. Sounds like a winning receiver duo. Talent at it's finest! Think about the fact that QBs can pass for 50TDs and 5k yards in a single 17 week season - easily in 2 seasons. 1k yard receivers who can't produce 7+ TDs is a problem. I remember when Steve Smith was considered done in 2012 as a #1 when he began producing numbers like DJ Moore, and here you are calling it talent and wanting another 4 years of it. I'm sure DJ will break out in the NFL by year 8. Do you seriously think DJ is a 10+ year receiver? There are a handful of young WRs coming into the league every year that are producing more than Moore.

Oh, the memories. To think, this WR trio is better than the trio the Panthers have now.

DJ Moore is not worth a contract extension. He is trending down in the NFL, and not up. He'd be lucky to be the #3 WR on good teams for a couple more seasons. He is a good #2 at best. Let him go and move on. Still searching for a franchise WR and Moore is holding the Panthers back on that journey. He's had 4 years to show he can make an impact and produce wins.

Penning destroyed his team's own pockets, QB, and RBs lanes while he destroyed anyone who was near him. He would level anyone even if it meant letting his assignment run free while hitting someone else and putting them on the ground. He is a penalty magnet too. I don't question his size and strength. I do question his awareness and intelligence. He was responsible for rolling up QB at Senior Bowl practice too by throwing an edge rusher who beat him into the knees of the QB.

It was Thursday. Here it is if you can't get it on demand. There was a topic here for it too Thursday night.

Next date is the HBCU Legacy Bowl on 19 Feb for scouts. Then the combine. Then pro days.

I was impressed with Jake Ferguson TE out of Wisconsin. Not surprised if the Colts reunite Jonathan Taylor, Jack Coan, and Jake Ferguson.