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I think they’ll want a young core player too rather than a 1st that is 2 years away... 8 overall, 2022 first rounder, Moore/McCaffrey and some other day 2 pick(s).

I get the joke but on a serious note, I just can’t possibly imagine Luke butting heads with anyone off the field....

We won't have the opportunity. He is 100% not hitting the free market. Either back in Dallas on an extension, the tag or he's tagged and traded. They're not letting him walk without anything in return.

I get that, and I also think it's likely we grab a new QB this offseason but Rhule and Tepper technically already got their "new QB." They moved on from Cam who wasn't all that far removed from an MVP and then were involved in picking Teddy. I do think they've seen enough from Teddy that they will move on from him this soon but I don't think it's the 100% sure thing that it would seem to be if they hadn't already signed a QB to a starter contract last year.

I don't know poo about these guys. Anyone who has the time and knowledge willing to put some info about each of them in parenthesis next to the names quoting the post (i.e. expected draft round, good/bad at x,y,z, etc.)?

Definitely the first Bucs game. Handed them the win with his horrible decision making and throws. Considering Teddy has no aggressiveness to his game or deep threat, that was the first nail in the coffin. He was sold as a guy who would be safe with the football and make good decisions. That game was more like something from Winston. Then all the other games where he came up short on potential GWDs were the rest of the nails. I was actually willing to give him a chance at first but it became evident very quickly that there's no chance he could be a realistic short or long term option at QB if you want to win.

Not entirely... They've drafted a fair amount of OL pretty high. All more or less busted for them. Also traded a fair amount for their LT and I believe gave him a decent contract.

I'm at work, planning to watch it later for sure but a brief synopsis in the meantime would be nice...

LOL, that's just as absurd as the people throwing out proposals of 2 first rounders and Teddy

Burns is easily the most valuable player on this team and will remain the 2nd most important outside of a QB, at one of the most important positions. I wouldn't do multiple 1sts, Burns and McC, that's just too much. Burns + 8 overall and maybe a mid rounder, yes. But not a whole lot more than that if Burns is involved.

what was the context?

Seems like I'm watching an academy award winner's speech...

3 minutes in. Mention of Deshaun Watson. NFL: HERE'S A FINE FOR TAMPERING

Caserio and Easterby will both be gone in Houston within 3 years. The others all probably last a bit longer.

At this point though I think a fair amount is resale market -- NFL not making much on that

I think the cheapest were like $19k.

Mid round pick would be between 3rd and 5th round. It's a pretty bad contract.

Reading that over sorry I didn't make it clear. I was comparing the circumstances surrounding the trade (a rookie QB coming in and winning the job), not the pieces of the trade. Teddy was supposed to start for the Jets that season but Darnold beat him out in camp. Same could happen here with a rookie QB, resulting in us trading Teddy.

And a ton of shenanigans with a certain someone who won't be named...

Yep the recent exodus has made many of my jerseys obsolete. Only active Panther I have is McCaffrey. Once Burns is extended I'm buying his for sure, and like you I'd probably lap up a QB jersey asap whether it's Watson or a rookie or even Stafford.

Completely agree. He clearly didn't have the mental toughness and discipline to handle adversity and after the ACL tear it just kept compounding for him from there, with his mom passing, the team sucking compared to the 1 year without him, etc. I feel bad for the guy, but the NFL is a cold hard business and you gotta be able to handle that type of stuff and work through it if you wanna stick in this league. But yeah, 2015 would've been an absurdly good year for him if he stayed healthy I think. He was definitely dominating camp.

I also have a Jason Avant jersey... Shortest tenured Panther's jersey I have for sure. But at least this one made some sense as I got it for $10 after he was released. I always liked him as a player and thought it was cool to have him on the Panthers, as brief and unproductive as it was.

KB jersey still hanging in my closet... Oof

It's not about being bad or any external pressure on Rhule. If the rookie QB looks ready (which is likely for Fields/Wilson, maybe not as much Lance) then the HC is going to be under a lot of internal pressure (not internal within the org. but in his own head) to start the guy if he's ready and let him rock and roll. Plus the chances that the rookie QB is better than Teddy is going to be close to 100% if he's not a bust. We also don't know Rhule's philosophy on playing a young QB early. If it's anything like his philosophy on playing young defenders early, then that QB would be guaranteed to start day 1. If he thinks that a young QB should sit early on even if he's the best QB on the roster then maybe he'd hold to that, but we've seen before many coaches who say that and then wind up starting the rookie. I really hope we'd play it slow with a rookie we draft but I think it's unlikely.

The play of the rookie and fans/media will pressure him. Unless it's very clear that he's not even close to being ready all of camp and preseason, there will be a ton of pressure for a highly drafted QB to start ASAP. We see it all the time.