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And yet he still was the best coach of the Tepper era lol

I do.

Seems like overall a very very good day. Don't want to get my hopes up though as we know how this story goes...

Well the rest of the league agrees on center being pretty unimportant... https://sports.yahoo.com/article/salary-cap-evolution-pay-nfl-211159279.html

I don't think anyone wants to move on from him lol, we're going based on what we've seen from a full NFL season where XL looked even worse than Funchess or LaFell looked their rookie years. Of course he can develop and get better and hopefully he does. But from everything I saw last year and this offseason so far, Coker is a better player at present.

Sure I'm well aware of where we ranked last year. But our offensive ranking last year is not indicative of the argument I'm making being wrong as our ranking takes into account all of the following, none of which are relevant to my argument: - QB - Coaching - Lack of a top 10 pick WR last year - Trend from latter half of the year I don't think our offense will necessarily be top half of the league this season -- I'm not sold on Bryce or Canales' coaching yet. Far from it on both counts. But I do think on paper, unless Tet is a massive bust (possible, but unlikely IMO), that our offensive roster not counting QB is top half of the league. I know many are kinda down on Icky, I'm not personally but I do get it. I like Icky better than most and think our tackle duo is top 15ish at least, guard combo is top 5. Center is a relative weakness, yes, but it's also by far the least important position on the OL. We have the highest paid OL in the league, it's fair to expect them to not have those weaknesses mentioned but looking league wide I still find it to be quite comfortably top 10 in the league. Again, this is roster/talent we're looking at too, not production. I think our QB play last year made the OL look worse than it actually is, especially in pass pro. Even in his "resurgence" I don't think Bryce did a good job of navigating the pocket or OL coverage at all.

Our offensive line is all proven and it’s easily top 10 in the league. 2 legit RBs, wide receiver depth with upside and a recent top 10 pick as WR1. I don’t think it’s controversial to say that overall our offense outside of QB is top half of the league. D drags down the roster of course, but I think it drags the team down into the low-ish 20s, not worst in the league. At the end of the day it’s purely subjective so there’s really not much point in arguing back and forth. Well see how the season turns out soon enough

I actually am not so sure about 32nd ranked roster, we do have a ton of talent on offense outside of QB (granted, young and "unproven") and while the D has a ton of holes we do have a few potential superstars there to build around in Brown and Horn. I think our roster minus Bryce is like 18-23ish league-wide. Including QB in the equation may drop it a bit, but admittedly I am very low on Bryce.

Completely fair until we see some actual results under Tepper

He’s such an overrated coach and I hate the 3-4 and wanted him gone with Reich. So yeah I’d say he should be on the hot seat

You don’t help yourself posting a picture of ai overview as your source but yeah from watching Evans play plenty over the years he’s no Larry Fitz or Jason Avant when it comes to catching.

Are we really anointing Deion’s kid now based on reps against our 2s??? Lol

I only watched bits and pieces but did Sanders even play??? edit: JT, to be clear

Coker is gonna surprise people this year. Could see like 800+ yards and surpassing XL in playing time the 2nd half of the season.

Coker!!! Great drive

Free play but Bryce has gotta get a better ball to Thielen there, so wide open

Damn well there’s a deep ball to Tet!!!!

Just tuning in. Was our first possession as bad as the box score suggests? lol. Hoping we get a quick TD here with starters and move on to the scrubs

How do I watch this game??

It’s preseason and we have no significant storylines that can draw interest in the preseason so I get it and don’t really care

yeah I get it, but it's just a few months where the focus is entirely on getting ready for the season. It worked completely fine for us for a few decades. Another couple years wouldn't kill any of them.

Wofford would've welcomed them back for 2 years

yeah of course, just meant in the context of the WR group. And if Coker turns into a stud at the end of the day getting 1 stud out of a 1st round pick and a UDFA is a great outcome.

He's still under contract next year for dirt cheap then becomes either RFA or ERFA and we could keep him 1 more year pretty cheap too. And his role will have a big impact on his production and subsequent contract, and right now he's pretty much set to be no more than our 3rd most targeted wideout. It wouldn't shock me if he overtakes XL at some point but it would take quite some time. And obviously if he performs well, we're not going to cut him. Maybe he could get traded in the future or walk as a UFA once he reaches that status, but my point was just about how secure his roster spot is. He's not getting cut, as some have suggested is a possibility.

Not saying it'll happen as he has developing to do and has tough competition on the depth chart to even get the opportunity, but I think he's more likely to become a Victor Cruz caliber receiver for us than to be released in the next few years. Unlikely for sure but still more likely than us just getting rid of him for nothing for no reason. Dude was an absolute diamond in the rough last year and was easily our 2nd best offensive weapon behind Chuba.