The Lobo

48 minutes ago, CardiacCat said:

There is only one thing guaranteed in life......  and that is that, at the end, we all die.....  

thanks for that 

7 minutes ago, DeadpoolPanther said:

Dan pretty much said in a politically correct GM way what most everyone is saying, let’s not jump into long term contract talk yet, let’s pick up his option and keep the relationship good and see how it goes next year.

Pretty reasonable outlook on it, let’s hope that’s correct. 

8 minutes ago, NAS said:

Well it depends on the price, if he's willing to get paid like the 20th best QB, I'm fine with a long term contract lol.  But if he wants top 10 or 15 money, nope. 

Exactly where I’m at with it. My only issue is, let’s say he improves to a top ten season next year, he then gets top ten money. Can he stay at a top ten level? That’s where I have trouble giving him an extension. 

2 minutes ago, dep said:

Theres another panthers forum? I look at the reddit sometimes, this place lives rent free over there. 

 

 

I couldnt image actually using reddit for discussion though

They mention them like they are boogiemen.

3 minutes ago, LelouchBritannia said:

Matthew Stafford is in the running for the MVP this year and may win it. He missed more throws in this game than Bryce did. No QB is perfect, but it seems like Bryce has to play a perfect game for people here to think he’s not a bottom 5 qb. It’s crazy. 

He had a bad game and still threw 300 yards and 3 tds. 

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

lol okay 

Bryce put up similar numbers as Herbert against the pats. That’s with our better run game and OL, put him in a worse situation (chargers last night) and he’s toast. If you don’t have anything else to say besides lol ok like a child, kick rocks. 

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

Sorry but if you watched us all season and watched that game last night there were at minimum 3 clear sacks Herbert took that Bryce gets out of. Seen him do it over and over and over again this year so I’m comfortable saying he takes at minimum 3 less sacks. That game just played perfect to Bryce’s strength which is extending a play and keeping eyes downfield or scrambling for a little 8 yard gain when you need it. 
 

that was 100% a Bryce game, defense played out of their mind, only need 17 points, extend 3-5 times and get a few critical first downs. 

Sorry I watched every Panther game this season and watched last night, Bryce wasn’t beating the pats. 

24 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Herbert is a better QB. The Chargers would have won yesterday if BY was their QB instead of Herbert. Both things are true. 

The patriots smoked us and Bryce earlier this year. Their OL (this season) was twice as bad as ours. Mike Tirico said Herbert was the most pressured and sacked qb in the league. @frankwsaid he was sacked 66 times while Bryce was roughly half of that, imagine Bryce getting sacked twice as much, no way they win that game with Bryce at qb.  

54 minutes ago, frankw said:

The Chargers gave up 66 sacks this season. That's the most in the NFL. The Panthers gave up half that. I certainly remember the constant hand wringing and excuses from folks like him when Bryce was getting sacked into oblivion.

Anywho. The Patriots are possibly a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Bryce Young threw the ball 30 times for 150 yards against them for 5 yards per attempt. His stat line basically mirrors that of Herbert against them in the playoffs. Which team got blown out worse though with more at stake? And for clarity. Bryce was only sacked once in that game. Herbert was sacked 6 times.

Bryce on the Chargers would be brutal. Don't expect that unpaid sycophant to offer a rational rebuttal.

He thinks Bryce would have better production with Ladd than Tmac. I think I’m done engaging with him. 

15 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Put Bryce on the Chargers with the 6th best defense based on EPA/play yeah that team would do just fine. Ladd is built for Bryce.

Herbert had 28 total TDs to 13 INT’s this year. Bryce had 25 total TD’s to 11 INT’s. Both had 7 fumbles. 

During second half of season Bryce had a better EPA + CPOE comp and a better EPA/play than Herbert

The way people drag Bryce around here but throw Herbert into that elite category is laughable 

Which qb would you rather have? 

7 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

OVERRATED

 

Ah yes he had a bad game, (see, I can admit a player I said was good has a bad game it happens) let’s go back and look at all of Bryce’s bad games, I don’t think anyone actually has time for that because there are so many.  Let’s forget the fact the announcers said he was the most sacked and pressured qb this year. How about all those high draft picks you always were referring too, they didn’t play in that game did they, especially his high draft pick tackles? How about the first round RB, how many carries did he get? 
 

Patriots beat the brakes off the panthers this year, Bryce had similar stats, is he overrated? If you put Bryce on the chargers this year, how would they do? (Don’t answer those I know what you are going to say) 

Which qb would you rather have based off of the pictures I’ve provided? 

9 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I'm not making excuses.  Coker is an amazing player, and we are nowhere near the playoffs without him.  My point is that not every bad thing that happens on the offensive side of the ball is Bryce Young's fault. 

https://x.com/thestevenruiz/status/2010390968303067564?s=46&t=sZBAMdzLph5zbmPd88saXg
 

heres breakdown on the play 

Sucks but it would be hard to keep him with brooks coming back. Those back to back 200 total yard games were legendary 

I don’t know what to think of this. Flacco, Allen and McNair were/are good qbs. But this was when McNair was at the end of his career, Allen was only in his second year and Flacco was in his rookie year. 

43 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Fowler and Mike Kaye are saying Bryce was special yesterday.  Thats where we are at with him.  Stafford with a hurt hand was better

Don’t go on twitter, he’s already been declared the franchise on there after last night. It’s like I said, good game but let’s all relax. 

12 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Do I like Bryce? No. 

But after that game, do I respect him? fug no fug that rich kid he’s been propped up his entire life. 

He played solid. Was he great, no, but you look on social media, posts from PFF, ESPN, analysts etc. “panthers got their franchise guy!” Or “Bryce is for real” when it was just a standard solid game. Let’s ignore the 9 horrendous ones and 3 mid games. Also I’ve noticed when espn reads his stat line out they leave off his completions and INT. Normal they harp on those things. Whatever, at least he didn’t lose us the game, all I can hope for is he improves next year bc he’s here to stay. 

1 minute ago, PleaseCutStewart said:

This isn't even top 5 favorite Panthers seasons... poo, I liked our 2014 team losing record playoff team a lot more than this year's team

Beating the cards in playoffs that year was awesome lol 

I really enjoyed 17, I don’t know why, maybe it was because we beat the pats in NE. But 15 is my all time favorite with 03 being a close second. 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

No reason to bash him today.  He played okay in a big game.

we hung around because a good team basically allowed it to happen.   Which is something they do.  

whatever your take on Bryce after 3 years as a starter shouldn’t be much different today IMO

Pretty reasonable take. I saw Marcus spears on Twitter say before the game he says he shouldn’t get a 270 million dollar deal, but this game goes a long way into getting that 270 million dollar. How? Sure Bryce played good, but he’s had good games this year. He does this, he will have good games and then be horrendously bad. It happens far too much. They didn’t lose the game because of him, so that’s good. He also made excellent throws and played more confident, but that isn’t enough to get an extension because of one good game, do we forget about the horrendous ones? Hopefully the team see that too. He needs to take a huge jump next year, so let’s see what he can do. 

Fug 

Just now, PantherChris said:

Yea this isnt even close to the loudest 

2015 NFCCG was nuts too 

1 minute ago, frankw said:

Alright that was a superb throw and catch to the corner of the end zone. Perfect throw. Credit where it is due.

He’s fully capable of it, just not consistent 

Just now, hepcat said:

It was a good call, was a first down if it wasn’t tipped 

Oh I thought you meant the RPO 

Coker is insane 

Just now, Butterflyj30 said:

Who drew up that play

Worked in the first half too