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So if I’m getting this right, the FO does not think Bryce Young could win an open competition with basically anybody except Kenny Pickett or Andy Dalton, thinks his ego is so flimsy that they wouldn’t dare have any talent on the roster behind him anyways (I guess it’s a good thing he’s never been benched for poor play with that frail ego…), but ALSO if he has just a mediocre season will give him the bag just because. Makes total sense.

Well they will just have to draft another pass rusher in the first round this year…oh wait.

He threw him the ball for 1 season 5 years ago. Y’all are legit crazy lol.

They saw the market for Hendrickson was not as robust as expected and made a business decision. I’d respect it more if they just came out and said “We’re playing by the rules and we don’t need a reason to cancel the trade before 5pm Wednesday. That’s our window to evaluate all aspects of the trade and we decided it wasn’t in our best interests.” Don’t give us all this failed physical bs you just come off more slimy.

I was talking about the team trading for a player with full knowledge of the medical history, getting clowned nationally for giving up too much, then finding an excuse with the “failed physical”. That is exactly what happened in both situations. And a “failed physical” basically means whatever the team wants it to mean. If there was a solid reason, the Ravens would give it, just like when they cancelled a trade because they found a tumor in the guys brain during the physical. That’s a legit failed physical and they were more than happy to provide the reason and not take blame publicly for no reason. There’s nobody anywhere saying Crosby’s rehab is “not progressing” and the only report we have, from his actual surgeon no less, is that he is ahead of schedule.

Having trouble finding all these articles saying the Raiders withheld information. Here’s the latest from Crosby’s surgeon: ElAttrache told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Wednesday morning that Crosby was "doing very well in the early part of his rehab and recovery from surgery to treat a significant meniscus tear and the related stress injury to the bone and cartilage in his knee. He is certainly on track in his planned program." "We truly respect the work of the Ravens' staff with Maxx regarding the contract physical exam. We also understand the challenge the staff faces when tasked to provide a future risk assessment based on an evaluation early in the recovery process," ElAttrache said. "This is especially challenging when dealing with an elite player like Maxx considering the level of commitment necessary for a team to obtain him. The timing of this assessment is unfortunate because the apparent risk will lessen as his recovery progresses and his return to performance over the next few months becomes clear." So the Ravens excuse is the future risk assessment based on the physical, not that the Raiders withheld information. They found an excuse to save face publicly. They had the right to cancel the trade for no reason at all, but they’re trying to save face with the most acceptable reasoning they can find. I’ve heard and seen the Ravens getting dragged everywhere for this. You know what would be an easy way to put a stop to that if you’re the Ravens and the Raiders were actually the shady ones withholding information? Just come out and say that you were not given all the medical information. But they aren’t saying that. I guess they’re just taking the bullet for the Raiders just because? Speculation indeed.

So the articles you are talking about are…speculating? Sorry just had to lol. Also, depending on the time stamp of the comments there was different information available at different times.

Probably had not a little to do with the whole world saying they overpaid with the two first round picks too.

Or somebody left handed who can dance?

Reminds me of the Lakers doing this exact thing to the Hornets last season.

Whoa that’s crazy.

Fingers crossed for Bills but who knows he’s getting older maybe the Bucs will hamstring themselves with a bad contract.

They’ve come full circle.

Idk on Brissett, I think part of the motivation of the FO is to get younger (relative to Dalton) and try to take a shot on a guy that had talent and could possibly still develop, which is why they didn’t go the route of a Mariota or whoever. It’s just they went with Kenny Pickett which I think a lot of people don’t think he will develop which I tend to agree with, but the motivation I think is there, it’s just a difference of opinion. And to be fair the whole league seems to value Pickett over Howell, Lance, etc. Pickett was last traded for a 5th rd. pick, Howell was last traded for something less than a 5th round pick (Eagles sent a 5th but also got a 6th back), and Lances last contract was just $2m.

Brother, you said it’s not even a question that Sam Howell would come in and legitimately compete with Bryce right away when he couldn’t even beat out Tanner McKee last year. Kenny Pickett was ahead of McKee on the depth chart when he was with the Eagles, but Howell couldn’t do the same. I don’t even like Pickett, it’s just this raging about coddling and not bringing in competition when the examples of the competition given are arguably worse. And if it’s possible the FO thinks Pickett is a better QB than Howell, doesn’t that mean they ARE serious about upgrading the QB room? I’m seriously not trying to defend Pickett here, I would prefer Howell for less money, I just don’t get the conclusions that are being jumped to.

Mmm yes, the mythical Sam Howell. The guy that 32 teams passed up for 5 rounds. The guy that then couldn’t beat out Carson Wentz and Taylor Heinicke. The guy that when given the keys to the car, got benched multiple times in games for Jacoby Brissett. The guy that Seattle loved so much they never considered him for a second after moving on from Geno Smith and traded for a loss to roll with Drew Lock as a backup. The guy that Minnesota then traded for a loss to roll with Max Brosmer and Carson Wentz as backups. The guy who then could not supplant Tanner McKee as a backup despite McKee being injured. The guy who hasn’t logged a snap since 2024 despite being healthy. This is the guy you are using to say the FO isn’t serious about winning. Well, at least it’s not quite as bad as Trey Lance. Consider for a moment that the FO may possibly think more of Kenny Pickett than Sam Howell (it seems like most of the league does), and they’re paying Pickett pretty much top of the market for backups. I get it, he’s not my first choice either, but to go all in on the no competition narrative just because he’s not your favorite “what if” is a bit much.

We're through one day of the legal negotiating window. Who are the best free agents still available? Here are NFL analyst Matt Bowen's top remaining names (including one player who will soon be released): Trey Hendrickson, Edge Rasheed Walker, OT Braden Smith, OT Riq Woolen, CB Kyler Murray, QB* Romeo Doubs, WR K'Lavon Chaisson, Edge Jauan Jennings, WR Greg Newsome II, CB Taylor Decker, OT There’s a few OTs here, hope we can get one but no clue what kind of $$ these guys are commanding. A couple older guys and a guy that recently got arrested on a gun charge. Give me one of the older guys on a 2 yr deal to get us by and this FA will have been just about perfect.

He couldn’t even beat out Tanner McKee for a backup spot last year. I’m all for it like I said, especially as a UNC fan, but multiple teams have tried him and he hasn’t beaten literally anybody out.

Also allows us to play our cards closer to our chest so that now if a LB is sitting there in the 2nd that we like some team isn’t going to feel like they absolutely have to get ahead of us.

$15m per not terrible.

I don’t know much about the QBs in this class, but it is interesting there seem to be a few that were up until this past season considered 1st round picks that are now looked at more in the mid rounds (Sellers, Klubnik, Beck more so 2 yrs ago but still). I wonder if one of those types could be the guy. But also there’s probably good reason they lost favor. I remember when Sam Howell was considered a possible #1 pick, then another year in college happened.

I mean I’d be fine with either of those but expecting them to push Bryce Young for QB1 any more than Pickett would just seems like wishful thinking and more of “they signed a 1st rd pick reclamation project type but not the one I like most therefore they don’t want to win football games”.

Who? All this hand wringing but there wasn’t really anybody out there who was coming to Carolina. Murray and Willis weren’t coming here, so who else? We’re in agreement Pickett sucks and we could have maybe gotten a different backup for better money, I just don’t agree that there’s anybody out there that fits what you really want. You saying “physical ability” leads me to believe you want Trey Lance or Zach Wilson which would just be lol if so. I heard Jamarcus Russell is available these days, some scouts say he was the best thrower of the football they ever seen. I mean in terms of relatively young “1st round talent” types, Pickett is about the best there was unless there’s some big names I’m missing. Don’t forget we also tried Hendon Hooker last year and the dude couldn’t make it off the practice squad.

Yeah Baker was a pro bowler and took the Browns to the playoffs, he just got unlucky to have Haslam as an owner do the whole Deshaun Watson thing among his many other blunders. Carolina had the right idea with him we just had that idiot Rhule. Sam Darnold is a bigger outlier than people think. Geno Smith was a backup or out of the league for it seems like a decade, idk exactly how long but it was a long time. And that Seattle team he looked so good with won the Super Bowl the year they upgraded QB and he went back to being total garbage on a less talented team. People thinking Darnolds are everywhere now.