Mr. Scot

2 minutes ago, Chad_Cota said:

Why Carolina is "Home" 3 years, $22MM, $13MM gaurenteed 

Also because he went to the University of South Carolina...

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

We are not trading back. I don't care what reports say. 

We might not.

But that doesn't mean we aren't open to it if we get a good offer.

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

You do know that they use Joe sometimes for this very reason right?

Joe's not the only one saying this. In fact it's pretty much what everybody is saying (even Albert Breer mentioned it).

I've heard people suggest this is just a smokescreen trying to get the Texans to make an offer to trade up. My question with regard to that logic is why would they be trying to bluff the Texans into trading up if they aren't willing to trade down?

3 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I may regret asking, but what in the living hell is that?

Speculation of course, but relevant speculation...

1 minute ago, travisura said:

I thought about that as I was typing, as well as the fact that an owner selling is so rare that I wondered if there was even enough precedent to have a standard practice. But even still, selling now feels like it's a wrap on this season for Washington. There's no time to replace coaching staff, the draft plan I'm sure is not fully concrete, but too developed to scrap completely. Things will have to go as they were going to go this season, regardless of if there's a new owner, but with the added ominous presence of a cleaning of the house during the offseason.

I'd suspect the Snyder's timing probably has a lot to do with making sure they can get out of the building with any evidence that might be used against them

Just now, travisura said:

Is it standard practice to sell at this point in the offseason. The timing feels to me that it's going to cause this entire season to be a lame duck season. Granted this is assuming that it's happening soon.

I don't think there is any standard practice as far as timing.

It's just whenever you decide...

Panthers were said to be needing a nickel back

Confirmed..

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yeah, but we don’t actually know a lot of that.  That’s my point.  It’s all politically BS talk.   And you never get a clear cut answer for the most part.  Who had final say? 

who was the final say on Icky?

Horn?

Trading CMC? 

Trading up for the #1 overall? 

The Jets boys? And there bad deals? 

when Rhule left he sure took the stance his power was overblown.  Probably was from the narrative here IMO.  

and the biggest red flag for me. Is our actions never matched the rhetoric coming out.    What was our plan? Came off like there were always 2 different ones in our front office.  Build slow and win now moves.  Once the Ron era ended…..we have never appeared to have a sound vision/plan IMO.  

Yeah, we do. Both from the behind the scenes stuff and from the way things are being conducted now as opposed to how they used to be.

I know some don't want to accept it (some due to preconceived notions or in your case probably because you just want to argue about it) but it's pretty obvious.

I'd add that if part of your argument is taking what Matt Rhule said after his departure seriously, well...

15 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I would say that by the end of the weekend we could have both Hardman and Chark

I don't know, but if we keep up this pace I'm gonna need a couple days off to rest.

Just now, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

"Protecting Joe Burrow" ... LOL. That is the funniest thing I've read all day.

At least from what I've seen, he was arguably the best player on a bad line (kind of like Taylor Moton used to be for us).

That said, Cincy apparently believes that Brown is an upgrade.

My guess Is they thought they could keep Williams and just move him to another spot, but now he wants out.

2 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Multiple reports all saying the same thing: Snyder and his wife have cleaned out their offices.

Yep. Originally reported by The Athletic's Ben Standig...

9 hours ago, GRWatcher said:

He forgot we re-signed Zane Gonzalez too. 

Already under contract

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

Yeah, I don’t agree with what that.  That’s selective blame. 

It’s Tepper’s team.  He hires those guys.  He is the constant and will be. 

and you are selectively laying all the blame where convenient.  For example, claiming it was all Marty and then all Rhule.   

and whatever power Rhule did or didn’t have….clearly changed after 2022 when he should of been fired and they didn’t.  Which you omit. 

it’s just carving out a safe space for Tepper and Fitt IMO.  Who easily could just be equally as problematic as Rhule in their own way.   Fitt for example can go down as worse than Marty.  That’s still exists as a possibility. 

I cited the people who had final say.

Trusting the wrong people is Tepper's fault, but you can't personify "the franchise" as if it's a living thing. It's run by people.

In the past it's been run by people who didn't know what they were doing, and yes putting those people in those positions is Tepper's fault, but it's not like he made all the moves himself.

As it's been presented to us in the past, the idea of free agency Is to fill your most immediate needs so that you can choose the best available players in the draft.

I feel like we're seeing that play out this offseason.

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i looked at the number of times that both Young and Stroud were sacked in college...

Young - sacked 63 times in 3 years. 

• 2020 - 6 (9 games)
• 2021 - 39 (15 starts)
• 2022 - 18 (12 starts)

Stroud - sacked 26 times in 3 years.

• 2020 - 0 (2 games)
• 2021 - 13 (12 starts)
• 2022 - 13 (13 starts)

i couldn't find number of pressures, but i was kind of shocked that Stroud took so many less than Young.

I would guess higher quality opponents.

And yeah, that'd give me pause, especially given that one of the concerns with Stroud is how he reacts to pressure.

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I’d say both. 

this franchise has 5 straight losing seasons under his ownership.  That’s the Tepper Panthers.   Only 2 franchises are on a worse run 

The franchise isn't an entity to itself. It's a personification of the people who run it.

For the first two years, that was Marty. For the last three, it was Rhule.

That's what we have to be redeemed from.

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

There's no "laying low" in the QB market. Lamar has just badly outkicked his coverage here and he's going to be very fortunate if the Ravens don't hold his feet over the fire now. They can probably fairly offer him considerably less than their last best offer now if they want to. Lamar might legitimately be looking at his best option being playing the year out under the tag and proving he can stay healthy. He'd have an extra hundred million plus in the bank right now if he hadn't been trying to save 3%.

Pretty much.

He thought he'd be the subject of a bidding war. The only war seems to be teams competing for how far they can distance themselves from him.

I expect he winds up back in Baltimore for whatever they're willing to offer.

11 hours ago, top dawg said:

If you don't know who you're trading up for, then you don't have "conviction," and Fitterer said that that's a must. 

For me, it's as simple as that. You don't trade up hoping or guessing or researching, you move up already knowing.

Person stated they have "conviction", they just happen to have it on more than one guy.

Knowing that more than one guy suits your needs is not "hoping or guessing".

Not sure if anyone's said it but to be clear, I don't think Tepper needs to redeem the franchise so much as he needs to redeem himself as it's owner.

I'd forgotten he and Shenault were teammates.