Mr. Scot

Also, not that it likely matters to anybody but people like me and @magnus but the Panthers staff page now lists everybody down to the area scouts.

https://www.panthers.com/team/football-staff

Used to be you could only see info on those folks if you downloaded the media guide.

2 hours ago, thennek said:

What does an Executive VP of Football Operations do, and how will this help the Panthers put a winning team together?  Does he report to Morgan or Tepper? 

Just now, Memphis said:

We don't need 10 people with lots of great ideas, like last year.

We need 1 guy with a clear plan and vision (Canales) and everyone else to buy in

#nomoreconsultants

Not talking about ten people. We're talking about one. Specifically, one who's been an NFL head coach.

Rivera's biggest regret about his early coaching years was that he didn't have anyone around him with that experience. Right now, Canales technically has Jim Caldwell, but he doesn't know Caldwell from Adam.

Carroll Is someone he knows well, and that can go a long way.

1 hour ago, dave-o said:

Hate to tell ya I dont give a sh!t

Up to you.

Me? I care way more about what helps us win games than I do about my personal feelings toward a guy I don't know.

Not like he's been molesting massage therapists in his spare time or some such.

11 minutes ago, magnus said:

If it's me, and I'm just some guy, but if Evero does not want to be here, I would rather start building with a staff that will be here long term. 

Ditto, and I think that's something Canales would like to shoot for as well

1 minute ago, dave-o said:

Hate that gum smackin' little weasel...  Pass...

Hate to tell ya but our new head coach sees him as a pretty big influence in his career.

9 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

 I wonder what the legalities are on this.  His title was Head Coach and was removed as HC. Unless he signed off on the consultant position.  I don't see where you can basically fire a guy from a position but try to keep him with a new title without his permission.

Seattle is sneaky like that though. 

Complicated I'm sure...

Inherent In the move is that GM John Schneider now has full power with the team. In the past, Carroll always had final say.

Just now, TheBigKat said:

I have heard in news clippings from former players that his messaging has gotten stale

plus he is a West Coast lifer

He wouldn't be "messaging" anybody here. Basically just helping Canales get accustomed to his new role.

Whether or not he'd actually accept such a role? No idea.

Honestly though, Seattle probably should just let him go anyway. It's kind of silly the position they're putting him in.

3 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Saw this on the WFT reddit --

"We should take a gap year"

"All in on this. Let's just take a year off, rebrand, new stadium, and wait for the next coaching cycle. Would be a year of no anxiety for us lmao."

I've heard worse ideas

I'm sure all the players would be fine with this, right?

6 minutes ago, Martin said:

I just question that he doesn’t want to be here. He also seem very professional. I think it is all speculation from media as usual. It might have some substance, but I’m not convinced.

Given the environment around the team last season, it's not really difficult to believe.

We're basically also asking him to start over with a rookie head coach when guys he's got history with are way further along and in a much better position.

And I mean, he walks next year anyway. Unless we think there's some kind of magic coming this season or we're somehow going to draft an MVP level player with that compensatory third rounder, what's the point of saddlng a rookie coach with a disgruntled DC?

2 hours ago, Daeavorn said:

Also if we keep him here another year and then he gets a HC job we get a compensatory pick.

We're going to add to the already dysfunctional reputation and environment we have amongst coaches and league people just so we can get one year of service from a coach who doesn't want to be here and an extra third round pick?

Does this really sound like a good trade-off to everybody?

It's not like we're talking about this year being a Super Bowl run or something.

People on Panthers Twitter want the team to try and force Evero to stay since he's under contract.

That's...not as simple and easy a solution as some seem to think it is.

Joe also mentions in this piece that the reason we've been able to pull so many coaches from the Bucs offensive staff is because they were all working under expiring contracts.

Tampa didn't have the option to block them.

It was only a couple of weeks ago that The Athletic mentioned a possible pairing in Carolina of Evero and Johnson, who have the same agent. But now there’s a sense in NFL circles that Evero is more interested in pursuing defensive coordinator positions elsewhere than returning to the Panthers.

Looks interesting...

21 minutes ago, CmC2k said:

I think it speaks volumes for how well Dave Canales was thought of in Tampa by seeing him be able to bring some of these solid veteran coaches with him. They must know that without Canales Todd Bowles will go back to being on the hot seat like he was before the start of last season. 

It is a decent amount of staff to let go (and have to replace) especially with them all concentrated on one side of the ball.

4 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Serious question

 what’s the role of an OC or DC if they don’t call plays

Write plays, game plan, coach the overall scheme

27 minutes ago, magnus said:

I posted Frazier was on the team site still, at 7:30, and a few minutes later he was fired... Odd

John Lilly, Evero, and the defense are still there, with Canales 

I think speculation was Nate Carroll was gonna take the QB coach spot.

Haven't seen as much former Seahawk influence as some expected so far.

Just now, magnus said:

Yep. Arians moved up from WR and Grimm left.  To be fair Goodwin is listed as a third tier assistant in 07-09, not line coach.

Hard not to notice the path: Steelers, Colts, Cardinals, Bucs