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  1. Just now, GoobyPls said:

    Yet over the last 20 years only 4 teams have won a SB by a QB they didn’t draft, so yeah the math is on my side. And Brady wasn’t a castoff he chose to leave NE. 

    And if you want to go deeper go look at recent mvp and all pro QBs, almost all were first round picks.

    All the recent evidence points to my argument you just don’t want to admit it.

    I don't give a damn who wins MVPs, especially given that MVPs pretty much never win Super Bowls 😄

    But I do notice that besides shifting to that, you're also now shifting to drafted QB's instead of first round quarterbacks. Given that Brady skews everything, I'm not surprised.

  2. 6 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

    I wouldn't assume the Panthers avoid drafting a QB. Darnold wasn't handed the keys to the franchise. He's going to be given a chance to compete. 

    I'm not dead certain it's going to be a question.

    I've seen an awful lot of speculation that at least the top four quarterbacks will be gone before we pick, and in some cases maybe even the top five.

    The first three picks being quarterbacks is pretty much a lock, and Breer pointed out that both Atlanta and Detroit are open to trading down with teams that might be looking to get one of the top five.

    Heck, even if one does fall to eight, is it someone the Panthers really like?

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  3. Just now, GoobyPls said:

    Getting drafted, is that supposed to help your argument? Lmao

    Thats how it works, you draft a QB give him a couple of years if it doesn’t workout you move on and try again.

    And with how easy the transition from college to the pros today today’s game is, rookies QBs should be given less time. We just saw a rookie QB throw for 35 TD last year, and another rookie pass for 3 straight games of 300 yards

    Following up the suggestion that a first round pick was the only way to go by naming nearly half a dozen first round busts certainly didn't help yours 😄

    Neither did appealing to recent Super Bowl history as evidence for first round picks do much when you consider that the vast majority of Super Bowls over the last several years have been won by a sixth round pick who was stuck behind a first-round pick for the first few years of his career; that same guy who this past year would have fit your definition of a castoff. Also the same dude who lost the Super Bowl just a few years back to another "castoff".

    The reality is there's no single path to Super Bowl victory. Plenty of teams have won it with guys that didn't succeed in their first spot.


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  4. 1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

    Ah yes the the outliers, about time you brought up those two guys. Let’s play a game, I’ll name a castoff QB that didn’t workout out, then you name one. I’ll go first and give you four right off the bat, Rosen, Paxton Lynch, Bortles, Ej Manuel. 

    i will make it easier for you, you give me  one name I’ll give you two.

    See, this is why it's fun debating with you. Given time, you typically own yourself.

    All those guys you just listed as castoffs, guess what they were before that? 

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  5. 7 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

    No I’m advocating for us to draft a rookie QB in the first round, you know like the overwhelming majority of SB winning teams  have done. Your the one that wants the Gruden approach with Darnold.

    Again the Browns are better team than us, also the majority of those guys were t drafted by them, so keep fueling my argument 

    You do realize (and given who I'm talking to I know that's assuming a lot) that Darnold is only 23, right?

    And I realize that Albert Breer's analysis doesn't carry as much weight as a tweet from last year, but still...

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  6. 1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:


    Actually the Jon Gruden approach is signing castoff QBs, Gruden has only drafted 3 QBs ever and all have been after the third round.

    try again though

    Also since drafting Baker in 2018 the browns have had a better record then us and way better offense then us. So don’t be throwing stones living in glass houses

    The Browns have their franchise guy, we are out here with Teddy and Sam

    Gruden kept shifting quarterbacks rather than sticking with one and developing them. That's basically the approach you're advocating.

    And seriously, if you want to emulate the Browns, you'd best be prepared for this:



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  7. 2 minutes ago, KatsAzz said:

    Teams that constantly recycle quarterbacks are often teams that draft bad or hire poor coaches. That is why the grass is greener, quarterback recycle doesn't always work .

    I call it the lottery approach because it's a lot like trying to get rich through buying lottery tickets.

    "Maybe this quarterback's a winner. Oh wait, he wasn't? Well let's get another one and maybe that one will be a winner."

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  8. 6 minutes ago, GoobyPls said:

    They are not easy to find, that’s why you keep drafting them and not settling for reclamation projects. That’s why the jets got rid of Darnold, why the Niners are getting rid of Jimmy, Rams with Goff, Cards with Rosen and so on. 

    We call that the Jon Gruden approach.

    Quick Tip: It doesn't work.

    See Also: The Cleveland Browns

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  9. 1 minute ago, bigdog10 said:

    This is precisely it. He’s 23 years old, so it wouldn’t hurt to baby him for a half a year and not put too much on his shoulders. 

    with that said, his price tag is going to get awfully steep in a short period of time. We’re going to need to know at years end whether he is worth staking the future of the franchise on. 

    The team can restructure his deal so that it's basically a little over eleven and a half million per year for the next two seasons.

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