Khyber53

D'Marco Jackson's game shares a lot with how Will Witherspoon used to play here, but with a bit more snaky-ness to squeeze through gaps in the line. Picking him up in the late rounds would be great. He could be a rotational player in a 3-4 right off the bat and might be the answer to filling the LB spot Chinn left when he was moved to S. Definitely would make a special teams impact if played there -- great sideline to sideline speed and a solid tackler in pursuit.

Or whatever @Verge says. They're always the most learned when it comes to draft prospects. Pure respect here.

Linderbaum. Excellent blocker in pass and run game, but more than anything he just has an immense football IQ. He could be a Luke Kuechly for linemen. Whoever gets him, and I hope we do, will see a massive improvement to their line, not just because of physical skills but because of his leadership and ability to correctly call protection. Some scouts say he is just shy of the optimal weight, but a pro weight room and nutrition program could solve that before training camp. And center is traditionally the smallest guy on the line. We can't go forward with Elflein or Paradis at the position. They were both decent in their days, but injuries and time have downgraded them mightily. Take Linderbaum, make a lasting commitment to the line and don't look back. It's the best pick for the long term improvement of this team.

They gave him a new contract. And they had to have known he did this last summer. Not to mention, they had to have seen his play on the field. And they still gave him a contract.

I know what I want the Panthers to do (take Linderbaum at 6 and not look back). I know what the Panthers will do, though... try to be the smartest guy in the room again and either trade way back and miss the cream of the crop, or take something silly like another DB at 6.

Sometimes the truth is that way.

The guy is speaking the truth. And Rhule won't make it past our bye week unless something truly miraculous happens. Hate that it didn't work out, hate that we're still working on it, just thinking all parties need to move on before the effects really become long term.

One idiot interviewing another.

You're going to find better and quickly. If they cheated you on that PTO, then it says a lot about who they are when the times get tough. Your next employer could be 10x better. Good luck!

2022 is turning into the monster sibling of 2020 and 2021. It looks like it will tear through our Panthers, too. Please, let someone like Tampa start pursuing him instead.

On our list, while I'd like to see Morgan Fox stay, I honestly won't lose a bit of sleep losing any or all of those guys. We need to just load out with scrub free agents after the draft and just slog through this season and await the regime change.

Folks, that right there is our commitment to winning ... ... a total of three to four games next season. It would be soooo nice just to be mediocre again, but that's a reach for Rhule and Co. Plus, this is what Fitterer is giving us, still think the guy is a genius?

The two would be the best WR pair in the NFL given the chance, and both could be moved into the backfield on plays with ease. Talk of trading either two of these is traitorous and would strip this team of any positive future in the next five years.

First, as an organization and a fanbase, we have to quit chasing the next Cam Newton. Really. He was the unicorn and he was lightning in a bottle. I love Cam, but we put so much energy into developing him, exalting him and turning him into our entire game plan that we really killed the team over the long haul. And yes, 2015 was magical and it came to a tragic end with Superman broken to the point where he'd never be the same again. Hiring a coach purely to recapture that magic, or worse, to manufacture that magic isn't going to work. We need to hire a coach based on his ability to build a professional football team, a whole team. One who understands that the QB may well be the last piece of the puzzle placed on the table. And that piece has to not just fit but also tie together/strengthen the whole thing. KC was already a solid team when they drafted Mahomes. Seattle had laid the groundwork before they took a mid-rounds flier on Wilson. Buffalo was tough and gritty before Allen. Heck, you can even say the Patriot way and mindset was already in place before Brady emerged out of nowhere. Good coaches do that, and all of those teams have excellent coaches and the staff to build and maintain foundations. Can Dorsey do it? I don't know, he's just getting his first shots at the coordinator level. While that's a much better resume than our current doofus, it's still not a proven track record either. Maybe he's the guy, maybe he's not. But we get some time to see what he can do based on Tepper's lack of guts. If the guys around Allen keep playing like they have been, then maybe Dorsey does have the chops. We'll certainly be able to take a peek behind the scenes due to our Buffalo connections.

I guess we could go back to Dan Morgan trying to concuss rookie running backs during training camp.

Can't argue with it much, it's probably the best thing we can do while waiting out the end of Rhule's overtime period.

I wish I could say the train wreck was over and this season will just be the remnants playing out the damage already done. I can't, though. They will somehow grab another QB, climb onto another train and look for another chance to derail the franchise. And trading away our first next season, or for multiple years, is definitely in their wheelhouse.

Some of the most important blessings we receive are the prayers that weren't answered. We're better off not being in the running for Watson. Let's move on.

When your praise for a draft class includes Dennis Daley, then it's a bad draft. Hurney hit on the first pick and whiffed on the rest. Kinda typical of him. His only saving grace as a draft evaluator is that he generally did well to great with that first pick. From there it gets iffy to tragic. I do think the problem went beyond Hurney and into the depths of our entire scouting department. And that worries me, because we seem to be just as iffy now.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

If you can't select or groom a QB, then you aren't going to make it as an NFL coach. Guess who can't do that? This must be what it's like to find out a couple of your family members have decided to start doing something stupid (running up debt, using meth, buying timeshares, investing in crypto). You know it's going to turn out badly for them, but there's nothing you can do but watch their descent and destruction, just hoping that someday they'll listen to you and get some real help.

Let's face it, things are so chaotic here and the underside of the organization is churning so bad that no one can predict what will happen here, except to say it will go badly. This is going to be a long, slogging year.

Oh fug no.

Minshew has a bit of a Delhomme vibe and while that could be a lot of fun, let's be real about what we need to do. We need to trot Darnold back out there behind an improved offensive line. Chances are we're still going to suck, but we will have paid for the right to do so and we can get what we have spent on bad QBing behind us. Rhule said this was the guy and then made sure he got that second year with the contract extension because the cost was too good to pass up on. Sometimes, when you buy a box full of crap, you've just got to work your way through it. If it costs Rhule his job (and it should have done so already) then so be it. Any QB we pick up, except for a late rounds draftee, will just saddle this team with long term costs and more short term losses. Really, we need to take the keys away from the drunk before he gets back in the car. Since we've declined to drive his ass home, we're just going to have to sit here until he either sobers up or daylight comes and he can find his own way home.