lightsout

Nothing says morale booster like firing a starter and having all the brass show up to hover over the fired player's former position group. I'm sure this led to a very productive and positive day for the group.

Not really. This was about their run game. That point absolutely still stands. We're damn near last in the league in rushing, they're like, top 10? Top 15 for sure. And they ran to good effect, even if fumbilitis is an issue for their backfield. The scheme in which they run their offense is effective. Unfortunately, Josh Allen is not a generational talent at QB. He's truly a Jake Delhomme-esque guy. Great when he is firing all cylinders, ok when he's not, and gutter trash when he's truly off.

CJ would be just as bad with all else being equal. No rookie QB can succeed with what we have been doing and who we've been doing it with. Dalton looked decent because Dalton is multi time pro bowler.

Pro-I still works as a base offense. I know it isn't as flashy as the spread everybody went to, but with edge players trending smaller and faster, you'd have a field day smashing them in the face with power. RPO is a neat gimmick...that generates as many illegal man down field penalties as it does big gains.

I get the snarkiness here and love it but it makes me mad because you can run folds, you can run iso and power, you can run everything except tosses with the same timing and momentum as you can from under center and yet we keep doing stupid poo lol

That is the absolute worst way to lose a game you should've lost anyway because you played like poo but had won.

Now that I can agree with but Allen has had options. Just missing them/throwing picks.

Murray has been hot this second half especially. Just fuging run it enough to keep the d honest. fuging pass happy league, they shoot themselves in the foot.

They're out of their minds. Run game is cooking. Allen missed some big throws, and the turnovers have killed them. The play calling is good.

Denver's defense is just good. Allen is shaky but at least the play calls themselves haven't been the issue

Watching this Bills offense work, and man it is night and day. Forgetting the talent they have at RB, and across the board really, they do some very simple but effective things up front. There isn't a question of who has who. They're running iso, fb lead ups, and some power. They're running the exact offense we need to be running but with good blocking and guys executing at a high level. When I think about our own run game, it's almost entirely zone. Nothing wrong with zone...except when there is. You see, a lot of zone blocking depends on communication amongst the line. Each man needs to know what their responsibilities are, but then also what the man to either side of them will be doing so they know how to scale. A guard expecting a chip from his tackle will take a softer bucket step so he gets a bit more drive, depending on the chip to help get his hips around. When the tackle thinks he's free running second level instead....you get runs blown up at the line. Our best runs this season have been off of an iso and, iirc, a trap. Designed to be simple, you have a specific man you must block in a specific way. No guess work, just know the damn play and execute. We have linemen we can't trust to get their assignments sorted out for inside zone and stretch work. Ron was awful at a lot, but his offenses always had basic concepts reigning supreme. Iso, power, blast/belly, trap. Our run game misses this, and the reason we do it is to set up the rpo....which we don't run really. Bryce hasn't had a single rpo called that I can remember. So we're giving a zone look in the run game to mask our rpo later and doing fuging nothing with either. Just a fun aside while you're watching two functional offenses.

This is Rock Bottom

You seriously discussing trading a rookie wr in an offense where the receivers are all mostly being asked to run short stop routes or quick outs that are blanketed because we don't have deep concepts called for 80% of the game at least?

Strachan had a big 45 yard gain and one other target and I don't think he saw the field after that much. There's also Smith-Marsette who has the athletic ability and speed but idk about his route running...because we haven't played him on offense. We have a staff full of incompetence. Those two should be seeing the field regularly. Chark should get moved for some depth somewhere as he is useless.

It's 100% just effort. Our style works, obviously. We have shown that. Our players are good. Again, this is apparent. Coaching and FO are great. The only thing that changed were some additions and a rough start to the season. My bet? We have some mental blocks going on and dudes are just not locked in. We are better than our play has shown. That I am certain of

He probably isn't that far off tbh

Back on the "Tom Dundon is in reality what Tepper wants to be" track, the valuation of the Canes has them as the fastest growing market in hockey. they were dead last when Dundon bought the team. Where can I email Tepper to urge him to sell to Dundon? It's the path forward

Just making sure Igo keeps the bills paid

And meanwhile in Raleigh, Tom Dundon has done nothing but help the Carolina Hurricanes be perennial contenders and is hoping to bring MLB to the state. Tepper needs to just sell to Dundon. Dundon would then hire a president over the team who has knowledge and experience that he trusts. Because Dundon is one of the best owners in sports.

Even with our offensive play calling, OL, WRs and general lack of fight in this team...Bryce is tracking statistically in nearly every single category with other very legitimate starters in the league. Bryce and CJ each have a single game winning drive. Bryce is sacked more than almost every QB in the league while having the lowest yards per attempted pass, and we know that's to do 100% with not having guys getting any separation because we've seen it on film again and again. Bryce hasn't been a world beater, but he's had a decent season all things considered. He's a rookie. Tua got the same talk early in his career that Bryce is getting now and he currently has thrown more TDs than every QB.

Are you seriously going to say you wouldn't swap those three for Thielen, Chark and Mingo right fuging now? Because you're absolutely high if you say no.

My mother birthed me. It's a decision I think she made well. There's a million others she absolutely botched.

This is the only serious take (I stopped reading the thread because it's that good). If you don't think this, you're hurt over not having the shiny rookie QB of this draft in Stroud (I am too but sheesh people) or you are too drunk to be reasonable tonight. We're in the suck as a team. Nobody is going to see a well reasoned response as to why we have hope in a rookie who is struggling currently. All I can say is Tua. That's what we have to hope for out of Bryce. To track the way Tua did, let his game feel and decision making lead him where his physical tools lack. But to do that....we need weapons like Tua has. Fitt is our issue. Until he is gone this team is in the gutter.

I'm glad we have another thread covering this exact topic. I didn't think the other 5 identical threads accurately covered this well either, so I'm glad this one was made so we can really FEEL the point here.

A guy who is showing he's gonna be a top 10 guy, at minimum, for the rest of his career and a guy who is top 3 to many, top 5 to all currently are outperforming a rookie QB on a bad team? fuging outlandish that is.