kungfoodude

Hooker starting over Dalton would solely be due to injury or potentially due to an obvious tank effort down the stretch.

I don't think most actually watch a snap of his 2024 or 2025 preseason games. There is a reason a 3rd round draft pick was jettisoned so quickly for.....Kyle Allen. He is atrocious.

All TV media is basically that now. Idiocracy is becoming more prophetic by the day.

There is ample time during the year to dumpster dive.

You must be one of these "one move away guys."

ESPN has a whole is just hot takes and the dumbest takes possible. That is why it sucks so badly. They intentionally drag everything down to a lightspeed retarded level so that it is unwatchable. No jounalism, no nuance, no in depth analysis....just idiot after idiot blabbering/shouting about some hot button issue that they really have no real strong opinions about until the camera is rolling.

Young is the overwhelming priority. We have ample time on them and it's far easier to pivot at WR than QB. Remember that 2026 is year 4 for Bryce. That is 5th year option decision time and also the prime time to attempt to regain resources if a pivot is made. The odds of gaining any assets in a trade afterwards plumment very rapidly(all this depending on performance, obviously). At the end of that cycle, now we are likely in a $45+ million territory for him to remain. So that decision trumps all others by a mile when it comes to personnel.

Well, rubber up, of course.

I would love to see them. Haven't yet. This is a sinking and floating turds argument. Maybe just generally stay away from poo?

I would question that assertion. He stinks.

Probably some of both. I think we always had some leverage unless behind the scenes he had become quite vocal about wanting to leave. It's not like he was attempting to hold out or anything crazy. It's objectively pretty good value for an aging but still effective veteran in his last year or two of his career.

I really don't think it's a "stunted growth" situation. But really the #1 priority this season is to evaluate Bryce. So if the WR's are trash(not saying they are, hypothetically). I definitely don't want to be in a situation where we need another year to find out if he is "The Guy" or not.

I would say perhaps he did make his feelings known.

It's not a true pick swap because the years are different. They are trading lower third of the round picks for top 10 in the round picks, though. I would say they did win this trade.

The compensation is quite good for the player. The decision to trade seems foolish based on our situation specifically. Oh well. I guess it's ride or die with the young guns. If they end up dying.....not sure how this is gonna work out for the FO/Coaching staff.

Is 4.61 way slower than 4.53? because that was their combine 40 times. People give Evans credit for being far faster than he ever was. Elite speed was never why he was so great.

Probably would have to be a PS guy. OL room is actually kind of full.

I mean, you are sort of speaking out both sides of your mouth with that, right? So, one hopes we aren't treating these roster spots like lottery scratch offs. This is based in things the coaching staff have seen to believe these guys are worthy of the roster and have value to add. Not just "maybe this will work out." That being the case, the staff also believes that Moore adds more value than Renfrow. You can disagree with any assessment you want but it's pretty tough to make the "lottery ticket" argument work for Hunter Renfrow.

This isn't exactly a rare thing, though. This does happen on a lot of NFL teams with guys they just know and trust. Rightly or wrongly. Horn and Stephens are the ones that reallu made me think they didn't have a high value on Renfrow.

Not to mention he does have a lot of familiarity with Dave and Dan. I am not gonna throw a fit about Moore. Horn and Tremayne making it over Renfrow leads me to believe the Panthers did not value Renfrow nearly as highly as most thought.

Yeah, he does have the option to hold out but he is betting on himself. Ultimately, yes he could lose a massive sum of money....but he has also MADE a massive sum of money, even by NFL standards.

He doesn't have to sneak on there. He can sign directly. If he does not, I would gather this was never meant to be.

Evero guy. I am starting to wonder if we are actually gonna fire this dude.

I am not sure I would call $66 mil in a 2 year span, probably all guaranteed(depends on 2025), that much of a loss. The truth is, he might or might not have gotten that on the open market. It's hard to say. That is basically(assuming $66 mil) the 6th highest pass rusher AAV.

No, I think you might have missed the point.