kungfoodude

The examples are so many it is pathetic. These are professionals. There is zero reason laypeople or amateur draftniks should be better than our FO. Unless you are a Millen-esque GM. Somehow we have had several. Maybe Mike Mayock is a good recent comp? One good draft out of three and basically just a TV guy.

It's literally indefensible how bad it has been. The only real competition is probably the Belichick Pats over that timespan.

That's fair. Again, literally the collective Huddle consensus has been leaps and bounds better than the Panthers drafting since at least 2017. We have had over that timespan one of the worst draft histories in the NFL. That's multiple incompetent fugs, not just one or two.

It's going to be hard to justify having a player as expensive as Corbett on the bench, especially when he is likely a better player than Mays. IMO, Mays is not really a great developmental prospect as as a prospective starter but he is very valuable as a utility OG/C backup. I feel the same way about BC. You don't want him starting because he generally is worse than all of our starters at each position. But his ability to come in and competently replace a multitude of positions is very valuable. To that note on development of these guys, however, we do need to keep adding OL depth almost every draft. That way eventually we can get out from under these onerous contracts at OG. I love Lewis and Hunt but we can't keep having two of the highest paid guards in the NFL that aren't also consistently All Pro caliber players.

I don't have any better term for thinking this FO/Ownership is better than internet randos. Stockholm Syndrome? Does that one fit you better?

I think a lot of it is also just excessive confidence in the ability to develop a player into what they believe they CAN be rather than what they are. I have experienced this ample amounts of time in the working world. You see people with tantalizing abilities but they don't have great desire to achieve their potential and so they don't. I have been fooled by this many times by seeing the potential rather than what they were and thought too highly of my ability to mold them into a better worker/employee/etc. It doesn't matter if you have an exact read on someone's motivating factors and basic psychological profile if they just don't have the motivation to excel. Which, switching back to NFL scouting it's a fine line because you might find the smartest and most motivated person in the sport but if their physical abilities are just too far from being capable of excelling in the environment, there is nothing that can be done.

Same. fuging same.

So you geniuenly think that list didn't have talent?

I have mostly seen him in the 4th to 7th round in evaluations. I don't think he is a factor for trading up unless he really destroys the combine.

It is sad. I have people chimping out over the suggestion that Huddle consensus has been better than our franchise at draft evaluations but, quite frankly, it has been. It's not just sad, it's maddening. How is this possible??

I mean, the greatest ammo is the injury history. That will lower his FA value tremendously. He is a very capable OG IF healthy. He was a middling center, however. It is a shame this is such a weak center class and we passed on Zach Frazier last season(I know, this dead horse again). Eventually we have to get serious about addressing C because both Corbett and Mays are the obvious weaknesses on the OL.

No more fuging flu, at least.

There is no path to trading him, IMO. If we don't resign him it would be such an insane blunder. If we DON'T resign him, we better go hard AF after an elite goalie.

It looked too much like a Fitterer draft. Didn't terribly care for Wallace but he looks like there could be something there. At the end of the day, you can't hope to make your hay in the draft on rounds 3-5 and whiff in the first and second. I hope he does way better this year.

Bryce was not that prepared for the NFL, quite clearly. I thought he has the best field vision in that class but I personally think Sanders is better.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/mikko_rantanens_future_plans_reportedly_revealed_as_he_doesnt_want_to_sign_in_carolina/s1_17636_41788202

This smells of Tepper cuckism. But, by all means, don't let anyone get between you and the penis you so desire.

Eh...depends on price. Corbett is a MILES better player than Mays but availability is an ability. Does it really matter? Ideally, we get a real center(highly unlikely. IMO) and we jettison Corbett. If it comes down to it, keep Corbett first because he is better(IMO). Mays is a great backup option but, per normal, we Panthers fans WILDLY overrate him as a player. He's a bottom 10 starting center. He's a great utility backup OG/C, however.

That's the part the copium crowd are missing. The fact that Huddle consensus is leaps and bounds better than the Panthers FO isn't a point of pride, it's fuging rock bottom.

I genuinely think that is unlikely. He is probably the most NFL prepared QB since Andrew Luck. The biggest issues with him are his physical ceilings. He is has an elite QB understanding but a moderately above average NFL QB skillset. I am curious to see how he works out at the NFL level. I would say Geno Smithish.

We need to kill in the important rounds(1-3) but we have a bunch in the "depth" rounds(4-6). We need everything.

I think this is the rare, "answered your own question."

Caleb is a good comp, honestly. Ward is a lower level passer, IMO.

Yeah, that is the fear part.