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Yeah, this is gonna be something to watch. We may see some of the most comedic Panther moments in history.

Here is the real fun part, every single player in that locker room pretty much knows what just happened. The franchise saw they made a huge mistake with Darnold and scrambled desperately to remedy it. Now they all know that Darnold is going to be the guy, despite the fact that the organization itself has lost faith in him. Here is what I think, we are gonna see this team start to lay down in the next 4-5 weeks. Get ready to see some 2019 stuff.

Well, if the overall goal with the team is that five year rebuild that Tepper talked about, none of these are problems. They have five years to figure it out. But....everyone involved appears to have thrown that out the window and want to win yesterday. Cool.....but we didn't choose that option. We chose promising coaches and young players that were going to take time to figure it all out. So, it really isn't the fans that got it confused, it appears to the the owners and the staff that got confused.

Yeah, I am starting to suspect that, as well.

I think, quite honestly, we are learning what the best players think of our current staff and possibly ownership.

Yep. He doesn't want to come here and Stafford didn't want to come here. Two elite QB's that are avoiding this place. No Bueno. I believe this means moving forward we are a draft only QB option.

Yeah but that doesn't fix his problems with choppy playcalling or not understanding the flow of the game. That takes experience and time. He literally hasn't had that. He needs to be in a spot where he could have learned at a better pace. The NFL is just not it as an active coordinator.

I think Brady just ascended too quickly and the NFL is not the place to develop. He should have gone to a small school as an OC(preferably under an already established offensive coach), cut his chops there for a couple of years, moved up to OC at a football factory school and then he has 3-5 years of experience and learning. This was just a bridge too far and even Rhule doesn't have enough experience to mentor him on how to do that job effectively.

Every single one of those guys in that room know Darnold isn't the guy. They work with him day in and day out, they watch film and they see him in the games. They all know he can't do it. So, imagine how tough that is on the sideline to be sitting there KNOWING your QB can't do his job properly but there isn't anything you can do about it. And I very much doubt that they are doing anything but hoping that he CAN but they also have watched and played this game for years. They know more than we do.

Yet we had a staff that "talked themselves into" getting him and a bunch of fans that believe he is the guy. It's telling when NFL experienced announcer after announcer talk about how he is fuging it up during our games but you have dolts like Terry Bradshaw endorsing him. The people that didn't think he was doing the same poo in the first 3 games just weren't paying attention. As Joe pointed out, CMC was covering up a lot of flaws. Which, keep in mind that during those three games CMC was accounting for 22% of Darnold's completions and about 18% of his yardage. That is not an insignificant loss. Same with the "can't see the field" comments. It's so UNBELIEVABLY OBVIOUS this is an issue. And this isn't going to get fixed. This isn't something is likely even fixable!

I doubt they have given up yet. If you see the defense start getting blasted, then you will know they are laying down. The offensive struggles are just bad because entire offense is off. Bad OL, bad QB, receivers dropping poorly thrown and well thrown balls. I am sure that just plain sucks to deal with, especially for very competitive people.

Turd blending should be the name for what we have done building the offensive line.

Underrated reference.

That's not true. I'd rather start a three day old, half eaten ham sandwich than Sam Darnold.

This is not a knowledgeable football fan thing to say. It merely takes looking at film and all questions about Darnold are answered. I would suggest you give it a try but clearly it wouldn't matter. Enjoy your new team when Sam gets jettisoned.

Sam is what we deserved after killing Cam.

Precisely. Why make it a struggle to win? Brady made his team a contender immediately, as did Stafford.

Also, Ciara was the more attractive destination for Wilson. That is the correct answer.

This is accurate.

Basically none of those guys asked for veto power, they just wanted their opinions to matter. That was specifically the case with Watson, for that matter. He never asked to have approval, just for his voice to be taken into consideration. As for a player getting mad about lack of protection(like Russ did), that has happened more than once with an elite QB.

Sooo...Russell is good to be listened to but not Deshaun?

Oh, you are one of those "shut up and play" guys. What is your opinion of Watson then? Tom Brady?

This is such a strange take. I have actually met the dude and he is not an ego guy.

Yeah but this is the third distinct cycle where this exact same poo has happened. I firmly believe this is one side or the other trying to create a bigger market than currently exists.