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It’s gymnastics that you are pretending that trading Dan Arnold meant we were “forced” to resign Ian Thomas. Those are two moves that are not mutually exclusive. Tight ends who can catch two passes a game are not exactly hard to find. I’m not saying the Jags didn’t get the better of the trade, but it didn’t have anything to do with the inclusion of Arnold. Would you have rather that fitterer gave up a 2nd rounder straight up or throw in extra picks for Henderson so that we could keep “pass catching tight end” Dan Arnold? I know that when you guys have your mind made up that you are done with someone, you have to take things to the extreme, but the fact that you and a few guys even care to bring up Dan Arnold as an example of someone who got away and are trying to convince people that anyone should care about him is over the top. Another guy a few posts later is blaming fitterer for not keeping Arnold and Chris manhertz as an excuse to why Sam darnold sucks. There are plenty of reasonable arguments to be made about the brain trusts in charge but these aren’t it.

lol just stop with the gymnastics. I've never seen so much love for a tight end that averaged around 2 catches a game and doesn't block.

Dan Arnold is end of roster fodder. To call him a "pass catching" tight end when he's averaged less than 2 catches a game for his career is trying to oversell a point or misplaced nostalgia for his actual impact. He doesn't block worth a poo either. Jacksonville went out and got an actual pass catching tight end in the offseason this year because of how little he brings to the table. If you want an actual argument for mismanagement of the tight end position, stick with blasting the FO for resigning Ian Thomas to anything other than a veteran minimum contract.

He had 7 catches in 3 games for us, how could we possibly replace that?

Miles Sanders is a top 5 RB?

Hurts is garbage and just a glorified RB was a popular take this past offseason, especially after the eagles struggled against Tampa in the playoffs

Purdy was a 7th rounder

Hurts was a Second rounder

Nothing and I mean nothing will top when we had “DrewBreesIsGod” threatening to show the board up by faxing us his diploma from LSU

It’s called Belle Acres. Not sure if it still exists or not

He declared this morning

Immunized

Or this guy

And the sad part is that Josh McDaniels still lost to them in Saturdays first game

Depends on what we'd have to give up. I'd assume it has to be above what the Browns gave up for Watson in addition to fully guaranteeing his contract. If that's the case, I'd say no.

Mike Shula come on down

It's been a thing that's been said for years on this board, mostly by people who never wanted Cam Newton on our team for whatever reason, not just in Cam's last season. Most recent guy I can think of who debated this was Catsfan69, but there have been other posters who aren't memorable over the last decade make the same claims.

Jake Delhomme was 59.4% and Derek Anderson was 54.3%. I've read on these boards that both these guys and Darnold are more accurate than Cam. This doesn't compute.

So because Matt Rhule (not an offensive minded coach, as has been stated before) didn't work, let's keep shooting for .500 at best and use the same strategies that got us there previously. Hire Wilks, bring back Ron as DC, get Dom Capers and John Fox to coach the D-line and secondary. Bring back Shula as the OC and Hurney as the GM. Use pick #9 on an RB and make Josh Jacobs the highest paid RB in history and we'll be back to the glory days!

Check out the historical records of interim coaches after being hired full time, and tell me how that expecting that strategy to succeed this time is any different than expecting to win the lottery?

A playoff team this year is a giant asterisk when you consider how bad the NFC South was - it would have been an early exit the second we played a team with any semblance of a run defense. The Steelers physically dominated us with their backup QB, and we didn't even belong on the same field as the Bengals. I shudder to think of what would happen against the Niners or Eagles.

He was a con artist, plain and simple

It's the same argument you'd see on this board in the 2010 offseason on why we didn't need to take a QB, we just needed to surround Jimmy Clausen with a better offensive line and weapons and he would develop into the QB that Mel Kiper told us he would be.

I agree with your premise overall. I've seen you post this graphic a few times - what year is that current through? Seems like it might be outdated if it's saying there have been zero pro bowl QBs drafted 6-10 since Herbert, Allen, and Mahomes were all in that range, Ryan Tannehill as well.