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If he signs a deal higher then expected I hope its somewhat based off incentives for the extra let's say 20 but could be up to 28 a year with the goals being all pro and sack numbers could be a win win for both sides.

With us showcasing the number one pick I’m pretty’s sure the NFL will give us plenty of attention we have to many storylines to ignore. Frank R Don Capers Heisman winning number one pick. Add in Everjo being a leading head coaching candidate just a year ago if we play and practice up to par it should make for good reality tv. So I’d expect a lot of coverage for both teams. I completely agree a very strong defense adding in a hall of fame qb to really good offensive weapons should be the kind of competition that lets us know where we may stand this year. Especially with them having a little more prep time if we can hold our own it should be a sign of good things to come. Of course we should get better as the year progresses but a good gauge as to where we stand early in the season. I’m excited for the scrimmages right off the bat.

I'd expect more we well if we didn't include any context to this situation. If he was out 2nd or 3rd option I'd agree. But he's more like our 4th to 5th option based on all the other additions between DJ AT and HH combined with our MS out the backfield there's not that many passes left. Add in LS actually running routes which I expect even if they're short intermediate routes he will be in position to take short passes for yac. Mingo who I do expect to contribute just might not see as many opportunities to get those yards we want him to get.

What that's rough it seems like we're a big play WR and upgrade at DE away from real contention but that's how I see it. Maybe an upgrade at CB as well but those 3 positions are one off-season away. And realistically our DBs might suffice a year after DJax injury he'll probably be back to himself after this season.

I agree I’m not discounting them but let me put context to the thoughts I presented. AT and DJ both played with a strong number one option last year A St. B played 16 out of 17 games JJ played all 17 so typical they would draw the best corner right? Typically they’d draw coverage giving other players a chance to preform. Who on our team draws extra attention or warrants the best DB? I’m not saying they aren’t good WRs I’m saying no one pushes the defense freeing up others. We don’t have a threat that you would say let’s game plan for I like the additions with what we have especially a young Mingo but we don’t have weapons that present any problems yet for any defenses which is why our offensive players are ranked so low. Hopefully someone like TMJ breaks out but that’s just a hope for now so based off what we currently have we don’t present a major weapon offensively hence the low ratings.

We want to think middle of the pack because it’s our team we’re very supportive fans. But from the outside assessing things with no bias I’m hearing similar rankings from lots of football fans that the cast is extremely weak below average and I’m starting to understand the logic here. It’s no way we can expect different AT is good but is clearly an aging vet. DJ is an often injured solid wr, everyone else is unproven which can’t be ranked higher than teams with solid proven WRs. We’re also starting a rookie QB no matter how confident and prepared he is there’s always struggles adjusting to the big league hence why the Hopkins move is looking more and more understandable every day. If we do or don’t we make that move our weapons aren’t better then any team in our own division which is crazy to think.

It seems dumb but the more I’ve thought about it, this seems to be the modern day nfl structure for success. An explosive offense that can put up points whenever needed. We definitely have other pressing needs but I’ve seen Patty M go down and tie the game up with 13 seconds left. That was all offense on both sides and buffalo had a really good defense, but what matters most is can you score when you need to. The best way to get to that level is an unstoppable offensive group and good coaching. Your defense needs stops when it matters most but these elite offenses seems to be the way for success for example the Bengals lately.

https://bvmsports.com/2023/06/15/panthers-terrace-marshall-jr-was-highest-graded-wr-on-go-routes-in-2022/ The names he's in front of says alot about his potential and what to expect this year with a good staff and highly talented QB. I'm starting to understand why we're not in the Hopkins race, simply because as others have said we need to develop our talented WR this year. A teacher like AT doing what he did for JJ could have a tremendous return on our investment Im starting to understand why we feel confident in our group Chark and TMJ with Hurst and AT being our security outlets. Are we under rating our Wr group? Does anyone think TMJ will continue to be an elite deep ball WR playing full time this year?

And to follow up with that I believe it was bad as we all do but why are his statements seen as to throwing the previous regime under the bus he said we didn’t work on leverage with our passing routes. Seems like a true and honest statement it seems bad or disrespectful because it seems like something all teams would teach to young upcoming WR and TE group.But we didn’t. It to me just states the obvious they were under prepared for the big league. But throwing him under the bus would have been a little more disrespectful it seems he can’t help it the staff was clueless to the importance of certain nuances. The more we hear we seem to always think dam they just dissed him again but really they’re just speaking their truths through how they experienced it. Sometimes the truth just hurts, seems that way to me reasons why Luke didn’t even wanna come around until he was fired he didn’t have enough football knowledge to lead a nfl team and the evidence is slowly coming out naturally imo.

There’s no way you as an employee of a team would ever speak nothin but glowingly about your boss in public while he’s in charge. I’m confused as what you think are his options about speaking on the coaching staff. They were all on board until he got canned same as Wilks who needs a little more experience to become a good head coach. My only question is name a player who developed under Rhule? Who did we see growth and development from that we can say man he truly was coached up and over preformed from our expectations?

Naw not a chance I know his good friend he’s set on a contender and doesn’t want to play with a rookie qb I’ve heard that from one of his partners who literally hangs with him. But if that wasn’t the case I’d still believe he wants to contend strongly for a chip I like where we are at now but don’t see us on the level of Buffalo or KC or Baltimore. Do you think 10 million more over 3 years is enough to persuade him when he’s made a hefty amount the last four years. I hope he changes his mind and plays here close to home I’d go crazy we’d be a threat offensively to anyone we play.

I totally agree with your thoughts m, but we’re fans of our team. He’s in the league trying to win his first ring what seems best Buff/Baltimore/KC or a unproven rookie. One thing is that he’s gotten a ton of money last few years so I’d say he’s probably not worried about the bag as much as others may be. He just wants to win and contend for a chip. He doesn’t even wanna play with Dak it’s hard for me seeing him wanting to play with a rookie again especially after Kyler even if Bryce is totally different it’s hard to get over that experience.

Hope he goes to Baltimore

He doesn’t want to play with a rookie qb he just stated that in a recent podcast with B Marshall no way he doesn’t goto a perennial contender.

Yea we didn’t have a creative offensive mind last year at all. I’ve seen the he can’t track the ball well, but I’ve seen that has been discredited with his college tape because you don’t forget how to do it you just might not utilize the skill set as often which can lead to rust. But curl routes and out routes like just seen, don’t require tracking of the ball to any serious magnitude we need to put him in position to excel we have deep (TMJ/DJ) wrs we have slot wrs we just need to get him the ball in different scenarios down the field not so much as a running back but hitch slants and curls where he can make a man miss and pick up chunk yards. Between Frank Thomas and Jim we should be able to draw up a lot of creative ways to attack using all our weapons.

Shows his leadership and dedication to getting to work imo I love the mindset most of rookie deals are set very little wiggle room so why not get to it

They did say there’s no cap on staff Teppers about to cut another check.

I agree completely I understand your logic and won’t even argue that I think he’s better then you’re giving credit for but do you think a rookie TE would have had more of an impact this season then Hurst? Do you think we should have drafted and played a rookie over him and how do you view Mingo as a AJ Brown type or a jag? Because that matters I seem to see him as a young Deebo S type of wr I can’t see a rookie TE having more of an impact then Mingo is going to have this season

What’s your criteria production or just your projection for each player?

Immediately lolol

That’s my thoughts getting groomed or mentored by Thielen will be huge for both. AT value to our team is major he can really help those two take off. Along with coaching but I just feel like he adds to much still being a player but a very willing teacher from his Justin Jeff days they said he really helped him take off.

That’s a really good scenario for each qb Levis might make some noise in NE.

Lol wait I’m confused now I thought BY was the processing machine with escapability like a young RW. Let me reread the other threads lol

I too think that’s it’s really odd being we have enough money and definitely have a need. Does anyone think Cade is enough at G to fill in or take over for BC.

Xavier should be looking over his shoulder defense adding two pieces to your position.