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yep, and it's always doubtful there is true consensus agreement on something like a #1 overall pick in most years. Some people are going to have a bigger say in the end than others. And then the job is to accept the direction and support it. And we rarely find out those realities until way down the road if they were to come out.

yeah, I'm sure he tweaked it. I'm sure he is having a rough time in general. I actually think giving him a restart is just a smart idea. Even if 100% healthy. and frankly, I think a Bryce restart is more a Panther O/Frank restart. They need to figure out something that works with this skill talent. You aren't going to develop Bryce if nothing around him changes. They need to tweak their scheme and figure out how to actually get people open. How to alter defenses. Bryce doesn't look to be a problem. But they clearly got O problems unrelated to the rookie.

We all thank Joe for the shout out. Now, we just have to patiently wait for the Hale-Bopp comet to come back around and then Joe will have to do a retraction on that verbiage.

and they are so concerned about it and him getting it healed.....they have him logging miles on the injured foot the past 2 days. Because that makes total sense. When you got a bad ankle injury the doctor always says nah, you don't need rest you need to go log a bunch of miles on that and stand on it.

The Wilks Panthers were not good. There was nothing to build off of. We weren't coming into this season building off that. The one time the Wilks Panthers stepped on the field with an actually good team that got smashed into the ground. Game over in a couple minutes into the first. They weren't playing modern football. It was an anomaly of 1960s era football matching up w/ some of the worst run defenses in the game.

It's called PR. It's a business. This team has been a nightmare for years now and was just coming off the comedy show Rhule era. They can't tell the fanbase we are blowing up a bad team, rebuilding and will continue to suck in the near future. So they say a bunch of bologna about competing. - all new coaches - all new schemes on both sides of the ball. - trade away CMC for draft picks - trade away DJ Moore for a draft pick - that's literally trading away the entire offense - draft and intend to start a rookie QB from day 1. - fill your roster with short term castoffs from other teams on O I mean, I still boogles my mind that some people didn't see this as a rebuild because of some presser where Frank said they wanted to compete and win. It's an offensive league. Just becaues they opted not to trade Burns didn't somehow make this not a rebuild lol. You can't trade away everyone. That's not a rebuild. You still need some basics. Like a functional defense when you are doing a ground floor rebuild of your offense.

Frank did it last year when everyone was blasting his playcalling in Indy. It didn’t buy him much time because it doesn’t alter the problem.

Fire the OC who isn’t calling the plays and whose base offense isn’t what is installed here? Because this is Frank and Beans core offense we are running. yeah, sounds about right. That’s how the NFL goes

We presently do not have a significantly more talented offense around the QB this year. Especially factoring the type offense we want to run this year. The Rhule window last year had way better skill talent. Like not even close. The Wilks window was at least supplied with talent to do what he wanted on O. We don’t have the skill talent to run what we are attempting. It’s basically exactly what you don’t want overall.

I’m fairness, you can’t be a good QB with this skill talent and playcalling.

Frank has been asked countless times about when he would turn over playcalling. I’ve never seen him ever put a time stamp on it. It’s always vague and that one day he would like to turn it over. Franks play calling is trash and has been trash for some time. It also highlights 2 bad traits. Stubborn and lacks self awareness. You would have thought post Indy he would have focused his efforts on being the HC if he was afforded a 2nd shot

Biggest issue is we did go rebuild. the Panthers just didn’t want to use that language to the fanbase that hasn’t seen a winning season in a long time and coming off Rhule. They wanted excitement going into this season.

Maybe… HC can’t tell you the play…which is ok But he also can’t tell you what type of injury. High ankle anything….which is okay. But he also had Bryce up on his ankle yesterday despite labeling him a DNP. And if you starting QB is hurt and you wanted to get him healthy to play that is odd….which is okay. And they had Bryce hoofing it all over BOA today, fat dudes and punters even take carts to the field. Bryce hoofing it. Injured QB? Doesn’t seem like they are treating it as a big deal. Or trying to get him off it. There was already an argument they were on a quick path to ruining his development after 2 weeks. Pumping the breaks with no injury was already the path they were looking down. The O to date hasn’t been enough to support developing a rookie QB. If you are legitimately a Bryce fan and want him to develop….you should take issue with what this team has done around him.

You can ruin a QB early and derail his odds of success by putting them in a horrific spot. All reps aren’t equally nor are situations.

Fitt/Frank are 100% tied to the success of Bryce Young. so yeah, not ruining him out the gate benefits them both. And the current trajectory was really bad through 2 games. Seattle was projecting to continue the bad trend. We don’t have the offense presently to support a rookie QB. It’s how you ruin a QB. So they pumped the breaks. It’s very easy to see why pumping the breaks is to everyone’s benefit….because everything hinges on him developing.

all you got to do is turn on the film of them not being able to separate to quiet them down.

I eagerly came to give pie for a well placed Lavar Ball gif. I now leave, giving no pie.

Dalton's last start he had 170 yards and his team scored 7 points. That was being paired with a top 5 defense. Andy Dalton has been called up the last 5 years. He has never gotten above .500 in any of those seasons when asked to start. Andy Dalton is horrible at this stage. And if he lights it up.....good lord? This place will be insane.

look at the bright side, the ticket affords you the ability to watch some good football instead.

I mean, you knew Dalton was starting after the presser yesterday with Frank. He said it without saying it. - Bryce has a mystery ankle injury from an unknown play - Frank can't even tell you why type of sprain they think it might be - He then bragged about Bryce standing up on that bad ankle to watch Dalton all walkthrough. It's a short week to deafening Seattle....big injury, little injury, no injury......sitting young makes sense after what Frank has put him in to start the season. Get a functional offense up and running before throwing Bryce into it. Not sure that they have the talent to be that or Frank has any clue how to get it functional yet with this skill talent. Do that, then insert Young into it. No talented QB can grow in this current setup.

again, it's more about the look of that 2010 offense. That's the similarity. How Carolina is getting to that type offense is different. 2010 was pathetic because of the QB. Which isn't why we are getting to this type offense in 2023. It's more about the failures around Bryce. Jimmy was the failed part in 2010. Jimmy brought the O down. Now it's the O limiting Bryce. Because Bryce can play at level out the gate Jimmy never could.

Functional? Maybe after the bye. But this offense isn't going to be respectable with Frank Reich calling plays and this skill talent in 2023. Frank is what he is and the skill talent is what it is. Pending their isn't some miracle where someone tranforms quickly like a Mingo or TMJ into a vastly different player. But the rest is what it is. Hurst, Theilen, Chark, etc all are what they are. And there just aren't good odds that Mingo or TMJ can make massive enough jumps to really alter things. but I always thought pre bye it was going to be really rough. Hope would for Bryce over coming some of it and growing down the stretch. But that doesn't mean wins. or even good offense. Just good individual play in a meh spot.

jump balls to average WRs that aren't open? I can probably guess what happens at fairly high percentage. And it results in people being mad at Bryce for throwing INTs.

Dalton's last start, he generated 170 passing yards and his offense had 7 points. 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022. Dalton has been called upon the last 5 seasons to step in. Never able to get above .500 in with his opportunities. Dalton to an extent is a Bryce type QB. Just the opposite end of the spectrum. He needs the talent around him to do the work. Bryce because he is a rookie and Dalton because he now sucks.

I wasn't talking about in the stands of BOA. I mean, outside BOA. So the media gets ramped on him. The talk shows. The online world. It's already frankly started. And it's super early for Frank to be dealing with all the stuff that got him ran out of Indy. Honeymoon window already over. Which was SUPER quick. I think Frank feels that.