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LITERALLY, the primary reason an iffy hire was justified.....is he was pimped as a QB guru who could "fix" Bryce. He gave us the worst version of Bryce and gave up on that 2 weeks in. So once you remove that from the equation, we literally just hired someone unqualified to be a HC and no reason to hang your hat on the why. 1 year as a very meh OC in reality is his resume. And he is being exactly that here. Forget the D, forget winning. You give a good O coach THIS OL....and they find better and more consistent offense than Canales. He stinks. I don't care who the QB is.

If you have Frank this OL….Frank would have. a better offense than Canales has. And I’m no Frank fan.

Probably a 5th or 6th would be good. But the Panthers would probably let him sit and rot vs taking that trade on the chin this season. Think they quietly deal him this offseason. Parting with him right now just draws more attention to Canales, Tepper, Carolina.

Dalton has averaged 150 yards with 1.6 INTS the last 3 weeks so I’ll go with 130 yards and 2 INTs for Bryce.

if you are going to overpay vet types to have them be in Carolina (which is what you would be doing with Johnson).....then they absolutely need them to be top tier character/leadership types. It's pretty simple. makes no sense to sign Johnson on any level. This team needs to built something from the ground up. You don't need to pay misfit types. And that's why he is here to begin with. Use one as a body for a year? Sure. Which is what we are presently doing.

I think it would be overblown if it was Theilen. But Johnson found himself in Carolina for a reason. So everyone is judged differently

This mindset results in paying Robbie Chosen Doug Frank Anderson….when you shouldn’t. there is a reason Johnson is here to begin with. He is a #2 that leaves a lot to be desired. Think he already is starting to let it show. I don’t think he plays very hard. And with his” I can’t play everyone position and make all the plays ” response the other week….thats not the type dude needed. We need leadership from the non youth guys we carry. That ain’t him.

was that a good game? Or a good quarter?

that's no archaic thinking. You have to be able to make plays from the pocket and attack downfield. Cam Newton did it. Lamar Jackson does it. Josh Allen does it. That doesn't mean you ONLY have to make plays from the pocket. But you have to be able to exist in a NFL pocket and be able to threaten a D. Name a successful QB that hasn't been able to threaten a D from within the pocket.

I mean, he put up 1000+ with rookie Levis last year. Results is what he does. Just about staying on the field.

Bryce to XL for negative 2 yards Bryce isn't a point guard after all. He is a tiny Kareem

What has always made Nuk great in his prime was his hands and ability to go up and get the ball. He has never lost that. he is auto 1000+ WR if healthy even at his current age. He was last year with a trash rookie QB. Healthy? Nuk all day. If you are trying to win now? Nuk. Dionate a better investment for a team looking further out.

I still think there are just flat out odds.....since Bryce can't be traded, he can give Canales/Andy a breather. Accident gives the excuse. Canales and Andy have been horrific of late. Likely would be in Denver IMO. So then the noise gets louder. Canales basically gets a pass with Bryce and can pick things back up w/ Andy vs some weak teams. I mean, this offense has been 2023-esque of late.....despite great OL play. Canales has to change that.

NFL is a nasty, nasty business.....and it's most definitely a business where guys see the underside of the bus on the regular. Playing Bryce on the road vs the #3 D in the NFL....will only hurt his stock. In no way does this week present a show him off opportunity. I think Canales is cool w/ that because the offers for Bryce are so comically small the Panthers are probably just not willing to take the PR hit of it.

Patrick Willis just got in 1st ballot with the same length of a career.

the glove fits, so you can't acquit

Disagree. They aren't looking out of Bryce Young at this point. It's the NFL. Dave Canales is looking out of Dave Canales at this point. That's how this thing works.

it can always get worse. Wait to we get to the Plummer games.

the Panthers have proven to be so massively dysfunctional there is no way to guess what they think and are doing. Org certainly looks done with him IMO. And if they aren't done with him....they got horrible management plan for him.

Here is my conspiracy theory. I think Canales is looking out for himself and using this as a window to protect himself/Dalton....and throwing Bryce to the wolves intentionally. Dalton/Canales have looked like dogpoo the last couple weeks. Now he has an excuse out of precaution...and can throw Bryce out there in a nasty Denver matchup and save him and Dalton some face. I think Canales is feeling some heat. Think he would much rather get dragged with Bryce than Dalton this week. Simple as that. And he has the safety route to claim. Hope to get Dalton and himself back to looking respectable the next 2 vs a now struggling Saints/Giants tandem of games.

attack 15-25 yards downfield. Probably need about 4-5 balls completed in that range. And it being done largely from the pocket. I think that would be a sign of promise. what we are going to see is him attacking behind the line of scrimmage to 10 yards in fetal position football with his jump passes however.

but if Andy Dalton is your QB.....what do you want the vets helping him do? I don't want us to win a random game at this point. I just want offensive volume in losing efforts. I do get having AT maybe to just lead a young WR room of how to go about business. But Dionate Johnson is here because of how he has acted.....so, I see no real reason to keep him (and make it 2).

Given where we are.... Johnson and Theilen make sense ONLY if Carolina was trying to develop Bryce Young If Andy Dalton is your QB, AT and DJ make little sense. You need XL, Coker, Saunders, Mingo, Brooks getting the reps.

technically a conditional 5th. If Nuk is going for a conditional 5th. They would have only given us a 7th for Theilen lol.