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QBs are so protected now, Bryce really doesn't run much anyways and he goes down if he is slightly touched. On the flip side every DC knows they can rush the speed from the outside and he wont step up or rush up the gut and he loses vision. No need for the kinds of hits Cam took for years so I'm not sure we will see one anytime soon with him. It just doesn't take that kind of effort to bring Bryce down.

The entire offensive scheme is a failure. Frank's time has past and he really hasn't done much the last 3 years except decline in quality. It can all be adjusted but he also does not belive in any of that. It's just incredibly difficult to say something poaitive about him or his product on game day.

They are always debatable and some of their numbers looked cooked at times. It's usually a 'how close does this come to what I saw' conversation or debate. I get not loving PFF but it is what is out there so it's used either way. I wouldn't take any of it as undisputable.

He would have been a great addition if they hadn't traded Moore. Very likable player but he also isn't the future so hard to get too excited by his play given the entire situation.

They gave us Tepper, this FO, this HC and this 'franchise QB'. This is all punishment and 0-17 still wouldn't be the worst of it. The football gods hate this team and have since 2018. They are going to have to make their own luck but this crew isn't the one to make that happen.

I think he would be showing things to be excited about along with his upside. I don't know if anyone would flurish here but Stroud could show why he was good enough to be drafted top 5 by now. Meanwhile people are looking back 40 or 50 years to justify Youngs play, a time when players like Young were broken on the field with those rules. Any comparisons past 2000ish get really suspect given what the games was back then. Any way you look at it Stroud is the best QB from that class and it's not close.

Didn’t see it in school and still don't see it in the NFL. His play hasn't translated to the NFL and he is going to have an incredibly difficult time ahead of him due to his limitations. This is a bottom team for at least the next 2 years and we will be looking at QB again soon. Sorry, it stinks but that is what this is.

It's what he did in school that impressed so many.

So when the D knows you can't scramble for a damn, take 5 step + dropbacks while not being able to step up into the pocket and see anything would be hard for the oline to block and maybe not their fault?

He is just part of the problem and not the biggest problem by far. Coaching, play calling, poor roster building and above all a really bad owner who is meddling to an unknown extent who also can't hire or manage his employees for a damn. He looks bad objectively. Really bad. He looks like a QB that obviously peaked in school regardless of the mess around him. There is just no way around that. They all deserve blame and I don't see anyone that should be spared.

Sorry to tell you but Tepper and Fritterer are still here and I don't think much would have changed. Hell if Wilks would have stopped that trade he would have been worth it but that isn't his MO. Hell he took the HC job in Arizona and didn't even pick his staff.

Go ahead and eat that dead cap now. Might as well try Hubbard and some long shots because that guy is a waste of a roster spot now.

Wilks would have improved the D but still would have had an outdated O. I don't even want to think about Wilks O and Bryce together, I couldn't think of worse pairings. Steichen was the most attainable and best option but again if Bryce was still a lock then I don't know how much he could have done with so little. Better sure but nothing to dream about. With Dalton it would have been solid but Bryce has so many limitations that it's almost a mercy they went with Frank who is going to get retired by this mess. Johnson is going to make a good coach. He knew what this all was and said no thank you. Smart, smart man.

I think all of them think the fans are as clueless as the Teppers so yes.

No idea. At this point I assume it's pure BS from the coaches, FO and ownership until I see something different. This would have been Rhule putting his feet in his mouth saying something absurdly stupid, maybe it's dementia showing in Frank or just pure fantasy to take away his pain that isn't ending anytime soon. No idea. It's almost all BS at this point from those people.

Terrible throw and on Bryce lol

On to the next slaughter lol

The CBs were never reliable health wise. There is no 'if he was healthy' at this point for Horn because not being available is the norm for him. The OGs? Some help probably but not enough. No one seems to be playing great and coaching is concerning well past the mistakes of roster building.

It's Tepper so it's possible. At least the rest of the NFL would have seen it coming

Maybe

The combine would have destroyed his value.

Not doing any drills was a giant red flag and should have pushed him bellow the other 2 QBs alone. If he could have put up half decent measurables none of this would be this bad but he knew what was up. Im sure his agent used the words 'can only lose value'. They practice all of that to perform better, they knew.

If he would have done the combine drills this would never have happened so it seems like a group effort from my seat...

He was selling whatever they wanted to buy, same a Rhule. 'His plan seperated him' or whatever the quote was floating around. The people hiring are chasing fantasies and the young and better qualified people were selling reality so they ended up with another dud and probably still have no idea how this all happened again. This is the second time and is now a tendency and the norm until they prove otherwise. Mostly from fans was the Rhule comparisions, which is stunning he is doing worse at the end of it all.