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The critisism is valid and deserved. It stinks for him that people really bad at their jobs picked him so high which will result in him taking a beating from fans and the media but he is being paid better for it. There really doesn't look to be an upside with him either so I expect it will remain ugly and he will get a second shot somewhere with much less pressure eventually.

I think the myth that having mental ability with little physical ability is some how better then a guy with lots of physical ability and limited mental ability is complete BS when picking that high in the draft. One has upside and the other could have been found in free agency. I don't think it is just Frank and I also don't think getting rid of Frank automatically fixes the Young problem. His ability is subNFL level except his brain which really doesn't matter if he is that limited on the other side. The last sack is a great example of him not being able to step up into tue pocket so he is an easy target for speed rushes from the outside that should be an easy miss if he could step up and still see.

Everything is fine...

I wish Tepper wasn't so clueless that he would know enough to be pissed about the entire mess. He probably thinks it's still going to plan. This is the guy who worked next to Rhule and gave him a 3rd year.

Maybe it's not playing not to lose and something else. Like damage control. IDK, anything is on the table at this point. They are an embarrassment and there isn't a good way to spin it so it should be getting loud soon.

When you look at their ability during play there is no comparison. One looks like an NFL stud and the other looks like an NFL dud. It's not fair and that's the problem...

Teddy had more upside all around

Jimmy is to Bryce what Bryce is to Bridgewater

He should never have been the pick and anyway you look at it there is hell to pay on the horizon for that choice. He isn't a franchise QB and he doesn't look like he will ever be close to one.

It's all a bust, all of it. Burn it all down or keep being losers.

Clean house, bleach everything and go hire a consultant to show him how to do the most basic parts of the business while not allowing his foolishness...pipedream. That guy isn't close yet to handing over the keys

The upside is it's bad enough to start firing people and it would be 100% justified. It's that bad

Dude will be hid on the IR next and the Panthers bot will come posting about how they are already excited for next year and his improvements...

I smell desperation. I am sure that will end well...

The stadium experience has been on a serious decline since around 2017, or at least that is when I really noticed it. Seems like the food quality keeps decreasing also, there used to be some really killer options like a giant prime rib sandwich I used to love. The horrendous play, the ridiculous cost and a really long ride home to think about how long it has been since I thought anything would really improve going forward all make it not worth even considering. I just sale the tickets I can and wait to get out of the PSLs after next year because those sure are not selling either.

275 with 3 TDs. After the game there will be talk of injured CBs but not about going into this year already knowing that...

They already fugged up. They should be paying Brown now but they can't without dealing with Burns either way first. Let's play 'what have they learned' Brown edition...

175 yards, 1 td and 1 int with lots of attempts. Vikings get up early and the run game gets forgotten again early.

They revolutionized how to use the cap. That really helped them to pay and waste so much money every year. You are not really wrong about the rest. A lot more miss than hit for years.

It absolutely could be the same tho with some of the word about what they got up to when they worked here. It's bad and Tepper isn't going anywhere unfortunately. Yes I would take bunch of the posters on the board over the Ts. But I couldn't tell you someone that is rich enough that's worth wishing for. I always saw Tepper or whoever as being like playing russian roulette with all but one round loaded. Well shocker we didn't win that game

I think JR fired them because they weren't up to his standards, which are generally accepted as mediocre. I think you might just be digging a new hole with one of his kids. I have given up on NFL ownership. There are some well regarded owners but those are the same ones that don't poop where their teams play so that is about as good as you are going to get.