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That guy really makes it hard to not dislike him.

I hate it for the guy but he can't see the field or do much outside of a broken play that looks good once in a while. He turns the ball over too much to be a backup and is now locked on to the dump off like Teddy was but with an actual functioning arm. Just put PJ out there, that guy still thinks he would be on another team once Rhule is fired so it's not like kicking a wounded animal. Pay me 19 million and I am showing up ready to be a rodeo clown for a season with a smile. He handled it all very well but I can't say someone with a guaranteed paycheck of that size is being brave vs practical with a great attitude about it all. Everyone with 1/4 of a brain knew Rhule couldn't ride into this year with any of those rookies or Sam again. Once they traded for Baker it should have been a blessing for him, competitor or not in this situation. I honestly feel for all the players. It is not going to get easier soon and I know not all of them are going to turn it around after the clean up but I do think many can with good coaching. I want to see that crowd chanting 'Fire Rhule' but it can't be fun for a players trying to hold together their careers.

Wanting Sam to play again really makes me wonder if they watched any of his games last year. Poor guy was crying on the field. They just need to leave him on IR and let some idiot team try and play him next year. If Baker looks this bad in the new O then Sam is going to lose the game by the half.

I will not listen to a word that POS is selling. I can't wait to hear the crowd this weekend.

Ickey I get having those plays as a rookie but watching a player blow inside of Moton in the same game was concerning. I have no idea what is wrong with him but we need him to play decently. Injury report for week 2 had him down as knee but not on week 3's report yet. That is not great but it is a practice year so give him some rest and see what the next person has.

Once we know the new schemes the new coaches want to use then trading is on the table. Maybe if we can't trade a player next year I wouldn't mind a strategic trade at this point but other than that just wait.

He isn't competent enough to come up with a legitimate plan let alone the ability to make it happen.

I never wanted him but he is better than that. We were never going to the playoffs with him but the O is run terribly. Rhule, McAdoo or Brady IDK WTF is going on but it is never good. Every QB has played worse here since Rhule got here. We were always going to need to keep drafting QBs until we got a good one but this is much worse than it should be.

Pretty much. Felt longer as a teeneager in NC. With no Sunday Ticket it was watch what was on the local TV which was never the game I wanted to see which made it feel like 1988 to me.

Flores or Leftwich for me please. As for rookies IDK until the draft. Im not looking at any and I don't care about their school games much. How do they project in the NFL and not the fluff and BS we hear every year with QBs from that level of play.

Snow's D is a failure at this level. 4 sacks and zero turnovers. Not good.

Moved there as a kid for 3 years. We were from NC so Braves, Browns and Cavs games were like an exotic spice we never had a chance to taste here in NC in the 80s. Lol Indians not Braves. Brain fart.

Once the NFL is dead to me I am not watching or paying for any sport that a family member or friend isn't apart of the team. Moving the team would make the NFL dead to me. I watched the Browns move and never watched an NFL game until the Panthers came to NC.

If I was a player and heard that BS I would have requested a trade immediately. No way I would have stayed longer than I had to under him as a coach.

Each week will probably be worse for CMC until he breaks while being forced to carry his coaching staffs idiocies on his back.

It is that simple. I don't know how any of his school coaching was considered overachieving unless you take the media's hype or Hurney's gut as good sources. Baylor was a weak school that beat nobodies, lost to any one good and had a bunch of players drafted that busted. Reddick was the only one that was a win that I can think of and Arizona did everything it could to not use him correctly. RA? Meh, ok player at best. As a non-GAF about what happens with school ball guy it really was never impressive to me on any level. It was all hype and no truth. Plenty of posters called it on here. It really is that simple. It happens in the NFL with players every draft and it happens with coaches also. Hell our coaching improvements this year include 2 that were overhyped as coaches, Wilks and McAdoo, that are now trying to salvage their careers from being overpromoted from BS hype and bad choices.

Think we are stuck with the GM for now unless you want Tepper hiring without any help? Im not sold on Friterer but Tepper solo is nightmare fuel.

a bunch of us said that playing thr Saints with our salary cap on a bad team was not a good idea. well here we are. My biggest question for the new staff is will they just eat these stupid cap decisions to just get it over with or will they phase them out when they can while makeing the most due to how all the cap was just being pusbed back on a bunch of guys who the new staff probibly won't want? Our cap specialist is someone that can GTFO with Rhule while we are at it.

I do that but I also sell at a discount when I know the opposing fans are buying them, like this week. They might buy concessions but they are not helping the 'home field advantage' Tepper pissed away by bringing Rhule back after last year. Just depends on who we are playing and what has a worse effect. Did it last year already.

Just show up and boo Rhule and chant Tepper's a chump. No much of a chance to hurt Tepper financially more than long term slowly but short term don't buy single game tickets or anything inside the stadium. I want to see what happens next. They hire an Urban or another obvious wasted 3 years then it's probably walking time. If I can believe it is an honest and decent try to improve then I will stick through it even it it goes bust. In the end I don't care about the owner or any crappy employees if the team can be at least trying to not be a joke. That starts after this season when they are hiring the new staff, until then it's laugh and drink times in Pantherland.

Sold my tickets for half price yesterday like

I wanted different coaches but I felt the same about Rhule. Total WTF? type move for me. Looked him up and feared this kind of mess. He wasn't even a good coach at that level and the one hope was that Snow would be solid. I still don't understand the hype. It should have been hot like radioactive and not desirable.

Not yet. We have 4 home games over the next 5 weeks so if that get's ugly we will be getting closer to celebration time. Not sure what kind of crowd the team will be playing in front of this Sunday. It got hostile last year and I expect to see that again soon. Bringing Cam back won't patch the Rhule hate again this year. Get your popcorn, we don't have good football so the drama will have to be good enough for now.

I still do not understand how his name was hot at the time of his hire. His resume was not very good yet he was being pumped up and posters here called that out at the time. It was complete BS. Fug the hot name. Give me a competent name. I can stand a miss but this one was too damn obvious. 'But he made mid teir programs competitive but not good'...in schooll. Who gives AF? Like seriously how good is his agent to make chicken poop into meatballs and Hurney & Tepper ate that all up. He was never a good candidate for HC in the NFL or even school.