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I can't believe he wants to do it. Like they gave him an out and he could just let the blame train roll over Brown but here he is asking for more. I can't stop laughing. I don't feel sorry for any of them. It's like Tepper is a dumbass magnet when he hires.

He is right. Either Young couldn't see it or couldn't read it, neither is good and both are on him as the QB.

Yeah, Tua hasn't scored more than 18 points and is 0-3 against team with winning records this year (Like the Chargers just broke even at 4-4). He is still looking like their weak spot that can put up great numbers against anything mediocre or less. 2 of those 3 loses where under 300 total yards on offense. You are not wrong about the mess that went down. That entire thing was wacky with Flores.

Shouldn't look good at all. The only way that ends in a win to me is if it makes Tepper take his hands off the wheel for the next GM to accept the job. I still can't buy that with how Tepper approaches his hiring process and with what is suspected in how he runs the team.

I just don't see what it changes or helps. Unless some things happen behind the scenes just roll with Frank and make him dance (lol as if Tepper had the ability to do more than be entertaining). Don't get me wrong, I would love to see everything burned down so it won't contaminate what could come next but this just seems like movement without purpose. Don't they already do a corroborative approach anyways? What is he really doing but giving pressers and having to meet with an angry and confused Tepper if that is really the way they have been rolling.

Since 2020 he has been in a decline. When Ballard was hired he did even worse in 22 and that last year they ended up at 30. The total yards in 20 and 21 went from 10 to 16 to 27 in 22. Yes he was fired during 22 but he was still the HC for that offseason. So in 23 with that same GM they are 7 and 12 again. This year he is 27 and 29 respectively. The fact he came here the way he did and showed he learned nothing is not a positive any way you look at it. The entire pitch that it was everyone else in Indy is smashed, he absolutely was part of their problems. Siriani was an idiot but they did that same song and dance in 22 and then went away from it when Frank was gone in 23. Tepper has a finger in way too many things and Frank was fine with that just like he was fine with his QBs the last 4 years. They may not have been his first choice but there is zero record of him being against them that I have seen.

They don't even have a legit reason to fire him, he is as advertised and he let go of the play calling which is about the only thing you could directly blame him for with their 'collaborative effort' BS they got going on (more like 'easy to dodge blame' system). He didn't build the team. He didn't draft anyone. He was a non-playcalling OC that year in Philly. In Indy he proved what he is and he just brought that same bag here. He was just experienced enough to know how to sell the Teppers in the interviews. Have what they want to hear ready, sound knowledgeable with a little easy prep and kiss that ass until they give you a contract to sign. Dude looked online at some stats and then had a sales pitch ready. Since he went to Indy his quality was known and it wasn't that good. If anything he actually found a way to do his worst here which is the only thing impressive he has done since being hired. I don't even know who they would tab to take over. Caldwell? LOL. Brown? So Frank can go prove he was right a 3rd time...and fail again like the first 2 times? Campen so that unit can flourish playing against their strengths under Kugler? The guy who was with Houston in 21 and here since then and little else worth mentioning about his capabilities. It's all so stupid and there really isn't any good moves if they are not burning it down and flipping everyone on the FO staff and coaching staffs to do a proper rebuild from the ashes. They can fire Fritterer but how much was he told to do and does anyone want to hire a GM to work with Frank because that is how they got a low quality GM like Fritterer in the first place. It's a shitshow and my guess is they either fire Frank or Scott at a weird time (like the way they fumbled the Rhule firing) as the screws come off behind the scenes or too much blame lands back on the Teppers to make any meaningful change possible so they just roll with 'being patient' which really translates into 'I don't want to admit my mistakes and there are no easy ways out so let me distance my self for a couple of months and just pretend I had nothing to do with all of this'. I think it will be option 2.

He hasn't changed since he was at and fired from Indy, why would you expect him to change now? Who isngoing to take the blame? They are not fixing anything so it's blame time. Brown gets fired? Sounds familiar

Similar huge misses on QBs and team building. IDK, I didn't watch much about that trainwreck.

Yeah there are endless Nicoles to throw at him along the way. All I know is that you can convince that man of anything if you have the ability to BS him in the ways he likes. Just do what Rhule did and say he is just another Teddy. It has literally already worked on him once

I could. I couldn't sleep at night after having to lie and pander to him but I think I could. That is the largest reason the team got to this point in 5 seasons.

Ohh they won't do it and that is why they will fail. Fire the dummies and trade Bryce vs trading away any talent left on that side of the ball and continue to get worse talent wise like they have since Fritterer got here. They are going to do a giant retool the wrong way and it's going to be worse than this run. That is what I see coming for next year.

He is so special that he can just make all that work. The real question is why would they tear it down for him when he is the easiest player to replace and get better...Because they have to make it work which just shows it's going to get worse. He is doomed here either way.

He is capable of passing the core and going through the otherside.

This is the future and it's going to get brutal from here.

They say rock bottom but there is still the rest of this year and then next year. This team under Tepper has the ability to push through rock bottom and hit magma on the other side.

Not much to look forward to and I think that says everything. The sooner the team moves on from the people that have to justify the pick the sooner we get a real look at him doing things those people have gone to great lengths to avoid. Start at Bryce under center plays with power running and then some play action under center while seeing if that helps open up the other parts of the offense.

I don't think they do blackouts anymore. If they did they may not have shown the Colts game. The stands looked empty, I know my seats were.

It would help the oline and running game tremendously. That should only help everyone else. I hope they try it.

Finally something we agree on. I think the oline wouldn't be hard. The rest is a big unknown.

The players and coaches too. Tepper is a football moron but he wants to be loved so it's not going to affect him the way it should but it will hit his ego. He makes money with it empty or full. It was always about his ego beyond that.

There it is. Not the pmay but the situation. Pickles earned us Cam and helped get Hurney fired which resulted in the Panthers best years.

Sorry Happy Gilmore not Maddison. That one was really childish. Also Little Nicky was fun.

So many PSL licenses end in 24. I'm not sure it's going to matter either.