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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:
Brace for impact. At the current trajectory, we're looking at 100,000 dead Americans 10 days from now. Let's hope that curve begins to flatten. The last two data points indicate that we may be seeing the beginnings of that.
NC looks to be flattening out quite a bit. We’ll see.
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6 minutes ago, stirs said:
I guess Bats are still ok huh?
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1 hour ago, stirs said:
Now, if we continue to buy from them and keep the tariffs in place, they will essentially be funding our government somewhat which might in the end help pay for some of the stuff we are having to shell out currently.
Unfortunately, tariffs are paid by the importer not the exporter. China doesn’t pay anything, US companies pay since they are the buyer.
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2 hours ago, Basbear said:
I found out years ago, a person form china could ship a item to a customer cheaper than I could. I like many others want to buy "USA" etc, but using slave labor makes buying Chinese mech so much cheaper. Many times you could buy 4-10 products for one usa one. Plus the magic part is now they are MUCH better at copying the better product, where as before most items where junk. Past time for a need in charge, unless its a specialty item, USA simply can not compete. Need to even up the playing field, but also USA needs to find other ways to "make" it too. Thats a whole another topic. Middle man and consulting is what USA has become, and thats a big joke.
True story. I have a friend that owns a company that works with large pieces of granite. It is far cheaper for him to import these large pieces of granite from China and ship it to Georgia than it is to buy the same granite from a quarry in West Virginia. He hates it, but he’d be out of business if he didn’t do it.
Also, knowledge work is not a joke. Someday, China’s economic model will be replaced by robotics. Everything will be manufactured in fully autonomous factories strategically placed near population centers to cut down on transport costs. That would be the case now, but slaves are cheaper than robots at the moment.
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1 hour ago, stirs said:
What will the worlds reaction to China be once this is all over? Nobody has time to worry with it now, but do you think China will suffer economically by the world turning its back on them?
None of us can afford our lifestyles without cheap stuff from China. The sad reality is, China now holds most of the manufacturing expertise. We couldnt make a lot of things even if we wanted to. Not quickly anyway.
I do think we start making our own medicine and medical supplies though.
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2 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:
Found out today that we get $1.50 an hour more starting next week. Hazard pay.
Don’t spend it all in one place.
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15 minutes ago, 4Corners said:
Government needs to foot the bill. Give these people money to keep their business afloat.
We’ll see if that happens. From what I’ve read, the current stimulus’ small biz protections are pitiful. We would need trillions or tens of trillions more.
I can tell you my job and the jobs of my 500 other colleagues are gone forever if this thing lasts past august. Nothing short of a 20 mil bail out would bring the org back.
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43 minutes ago, 4Corners said:
I mean...what am I missing here? The economy will bounce back. The market fluctuates. We can get it back on track but we need to worry about keeping our country healthy and safe. That is the first priority. fug your 401K.
It’s not about the stock market. It’s about businesses still being around to bounce back. It’s about people having money to pay for food etc. I’m not saying I’m for this. However, what happens when people start seeing their jobs and companies disappear forever? Fear is a powerful force.
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2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:
I mean last week you had politicians telling old people they need to be prepared to die for the economy.
Give it another few weeks and the general population might be saying that too.
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14 minutes ago, 4Corners said:
They need to close everything down for 2 weeks. Everything. If you can’t work from home then it needs to be closed. A few exceptions to the rule of course. Groceries online and pickup only. Gas stations closed except for pumps. Pharmacies open but rules are different. Restaurants closed. Parks and greenways closed. I’m even down with some sort of martial law. Americans are entitled, stupid, and hard headed. Anyone breaking the law gets fined and possible jail time.
Yeah, all the experts have said that if they could wave a magic want that kept everyone at home (and family members 6ft from each other) this thing would be over in 2-3 weeks.
These half measures are just going to prolong it. People are now reporting that they are getting it even though they haven’t left the house in 3 weeks except for groceries. Jeez, I wonder where they got it....
Everyday I look outside and neighbors are standing in groups right next to each other talking away. WTF!
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1 hour ago, BIGH2001 said:
That is a morale killer for sure. June 12th.
Maryland’s new order is indefinite.
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3 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:
I assumed my whole family had corona 2 weeks ago. They only tested my son and he got flu positive so they just said we all had flu and sent us home but whole family had every corona symptom.
Yeah, I work with two people who most likely had it weeks ago. They couldn’t get tested so they will never know.
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5 hours ago, stirs said:
The point I am making is that the hospitals are packed full of the "at risk" folks. The social distancing does not work when grandparents spend all their time with family, even in groups under 10. If the 65 and up and at risk folks were quarantined and not getting this virus, the rest of the country could most likely work and serve the at risk folks. There might be people that are not at risk going to the hospital, but the system should be able to handle them, not unlike the flu each season.
Families would be impacted however by not being able to spend time with the elderly, might even seem cruel, but would not end up in a funeral.
You still social distance, AND you put out the testing for antibodies to know who has already had it.
The normal testing seems kind of stupid now. If 50% of the people that had it didn't even know? What about the ones getting tested and negative, do they come back every week until they finally test positive? Just seems like it is good for building a database of where the outbreaks are, but not much in stopping it.
I see what you’re getting at but this would take a ton of prep time. Not all old people live by themselves and can take care of themselves. The deadly outbreaks in the Seattle retirement homes were started by employees and nurses bringing the virus in.
Also, it’s worth noting that the U.K. was going to use a similar plan but realized the number of hospitalizations that would happen among the “non at risk group” would still overload their healthcare system. They went from “let the young work and get the virus” to “put the entire country in lockdown” in just a week or two.
What should have happened was an earlier travel ban and a complete lockdown of those first few cities where the virus took hold. Unfortunately, that type of lockdown is unconstitutional at the moment. We might end up seeing the first constitutional amendment in a century when this is over.
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1 hour ago, Ja Rhule said:
340 corona cases in Mecklenburg county. My family knows one of top doctors at Atrium and he told us to hold on to our butts. April in Charlotte will be bad. He said to buy food online only.
Yeah, you can only get tested if you are in the hospital and testing has ruled out everything else.
Mild cases don’t get reported.
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One thing we have going for us is our population density is nothing like China and Europe. Most of us don’t take public transport, etc. It’s way easier for us to isolate.
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11 minutes ago, stirs said:
Don't think we tell cancer patients its not big deal, but we also don't tell everyone they are necessarily going to get cancer. I think that is what he is saying, but then again, I don't really care for him, so it's easy for me to thumb my nose to him.
To me, if China was not turning around in really dramatic ways, I would have a much more jaded outlook, but it can be done and I think mitigation and warmer weather, all bode well for us.
There are also new reports out however that say some people present with GI difficulties and not so much the lung issues. That will throw a monkey wrench into a lot of efforts. Guess it's good people getting that toilet paper.
Absolutely, it can be done and I think it will be done.
A lot of people think this is nothing more than the flu and we don’t need to take all these precautions. To me, that is what Tom is getting at.
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1 hour ago, stirs said:
Hate Brady, but perspective is something missing today
Like Tom, a lot of people have a terrible time assessing risk.
You see this with hurricanes. There are always people who say the risk is overblown and they stay home because “very few people die in these storms”.
Well yeah, because people leave. What would happen if everyone stayed and did nothing?
Same with this. What would happen if nothing was done? Italy x 10 would happen.
You wouldn’t tell a cancer patient that their disease is no big deal because way more people die in car accidents. No, you take the appropriate steps (drastic if required) to stop the threat.
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1 hour ago, MurkN said:
Apparently, the panelists were not happy with his notes and feel it is not 100% accurate.
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Sounds like it was worth it....
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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:
He doesn't like facts and data.
I know, but I don’t want people to read his posts and think there is something to it. People love conspiracy theories.
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Just now, Snake said:
Big woop. How many does the flu kill every year?
Italy right now.
Reporting 463 total fatalities from the virus, out of 9,172 confirmed cases.
2019 flu season in Italy.
2,768,000 cases. 240 deaths.
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1 minute ago, Snake said:
It's not that serious. Yes you should practice good hygiene but CNN has hyped it way too much. SARS and Swine Flu were much more serious.
Yes, SARS was way worse. Most people won’t die from corona virus, but we have a responsibility to protect the vulnerable. Our medical system cannot handle a modest influx of sick people all at once. That’s the real danger here.
I’m going to trust my friends in the medical field and what they are telling me they are seeing over whatever YouTube channel you are watching.-
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3 minutes ago, Snake said:
It's not the black death they are preaching on CNN. If you have pre existing conditions yes but that's not everyone. Like I said watch and see. The biggest fear is the unknown spread.
No one is saying it is the Black Death, but is is serious.
King County (Seattle) has 376 known cases so far with 23 deaths. Some were elderly but some were people in the 50s and 40s. The person in her 40s was a regular employee of the nursing home. She didn’t have major health issues except maybe high blood pressure or something.
The point is, there are a lot of elderly people and people with health issues. If hundreds of thousands or millions of people had this already, basic math says it would be hitting the fan right now.
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Just now, Snake said:
Negative, without tests they are being treated like other common viruses. Just wait and watch.
Ok....but by all accounts this is deadlier and has more extreme symptoms in the elderly and sick people. My friend has treated these patients. He hasn’t seen a huge uptick in patients in the ICU and he works in Seattle.
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My friend is a nurse in Seattle. They were anything but ready for this. His hospital had 6 masks for the entire hospital when this started. They still don’t have enough PPE. The only place that could handle testing was the university of Washington. For a while, they were closing on the weekends. Total WTF stuff.