Basbear

right but Upton > olive....... there's always a choice my friend....

that's coach firing in my book, no excuse..

Panthers have been super lucky with slowing down bijan. I'd love lands with the iants.....that's 4 games each year your run defense will be tested to the max. Im not joking, for me I'd totally changed the team plans this happened. DL and ILB would rocket to the top of needs/wants. Id even say DT would be on the table for the 1st, same for 2nd..... thankful Panthers have Moehrig, he's a legit counter to them....hed needs help tho....

personally, even call it as a just changed my mind deal. sonny>downs

I don't member his old 2003 interviews. I do recall him not caring about doing them and just being all serious and business-like. These just feel sooo weird to me. Like he's on coke and not liking the bright lights. IDK...it maybe just me over-thinking it. Its un-natural, like a old mark zuckerberg......even with the snips of water to collect words/thoughts. My guy doesn't blink at all.....

him with Bijan Robinson in the division, means you have put a huge investment at stopping the run..... It would totally change the draft needs/wants if that happens......scary part is I believe that's his spot. Panthers MUST GET fuging NT!!!!!! its been 3 years without one in this system....

he's even less than sonny, <place no one will last until 19 meme". Plus If I'm sonny, Im done for combine. I would quit after that vert. My agent can handle the rest...

Id prefer that. I did see some CJ Allen and someone commented here that's "Hes a good player on a great team".... fug that crushed my idea for him cause that statement feels right and hes ranked right around 19. I feel Dan will sign at least one vet ILB even with no cap space. Hell Im in the camp of bringing back boom as a #4 ster too, if his market is cold after leading the team in tacks and energy. dang shame your pass coverage is #1 trait for ILB now, look at what Luke started.... rams targeted nick Scott and boom both games.... you just have to cover now, or you will be thrown at non-stop.

I just hate how the league de-valued it. plus the 5th option is why Lloyd is available this year after a career year. its a waste not being able use 5th on a stud. I do get you, this group running since shaq leftd is embarrassing.

if that's the case, you're right .00000000001%. o well, edge is now my top want.

I mean, you'd see how good of liar Dan is. his interviews are weird. his voice and drugged look, its like he's super nervous. I wouldn't want to get NFL's top reporter upset at me. he's a great tool to use if on good terms.

Yep, those top 7 or so are looking like this year starters. Sonny is just 10% bigger and faster than the nest best. He's on another level, thus I do not see him falling out of single digits....unless his interviews are beyond bad. I didn't think he would measure this well, he proves the combine can still make you more millions. Personally I hate to see Panthers use 1st or 2nd on ILB unless the gold jacket is in play.... Seems like 3rd maybe too late of one of top shelf group.

yea Dan blew this up, "Ive had no team calling about trading Dalton". I was thinking Adam was doing the Panthers a favor....then Dan is like "WUT?, NEVER HAPPENED" I only see a big bro deal with one of the young QBs, one fact is Miami was trading for Dalton 2 years and that QB coach is here now.....one less want out there among teams. Like others have said, if anyone watched his last last...he looked 38 and maybe older. It just wasn't his slow foot speed, it was the decisions too. ugh.... Still why have a #2-3 old guy, when that's the QB coach job?? He's cheaper and doesn't cost a roster spot.

rip to the dream of Sonny Styles falling to 19th, that dream is OVER!

You maybe on to something. The recent hire of Darrell bevell may have suggested it after his viewing of the season. I do think brad should have a understanding of BY and what to call. I also think huddle, x, plebitt, bragbook panther fans started to ask loudly "What does Brad do?!?!?". I also think Dave is trying to save himself if BY fails....

Best I know he's a ILB that's in the 2-3 range. Leader etc etc all the buzz words about ILB. I did see some early 1st talk, but that has cooled.

honestly since Brandt Tillis got here, they have not done much restructuring outside a couple lower paid players. Brandt said he learnt how the NFL views contracts by working at the NFL. I've always maintained restructuring is fine, so long your have a winning team/great QB/great ______ . Then it makes sense, not with a 5 max winner like Panthers were for years. You got to win or have a highly talented group that odds are they will make noise in the playoffs.

Dan and Dave have been saying over and over; "we want a competitive team". It is past time for the QB "leader" to do what everyone else is doing. I think, I mean if its me....Im not counting on BY to save my job. This coming year is one of those fork path super different deals for not only the team but many Panthers, coaches, and staff. If BY isn't "him", and Panthers win 3 games..... whole new everything minus owner is incoming. About the only safe player would be dbrown and maybe tmac...

Watch out now...... I agree but many others disagree with this line of thinking. I seen a recent summary too- Which would you rather have the best safety or the 8th best edge? Best safety maybe kyle hamilton, the 8th best edge is Maxx Crosby. Id take maxx even with Myles or TJ on the roster. Plus if you don't like Maxx as 8th best, Id take whoever the 8th best edge is over the Kyle. Panthers need a starter level edge, the only realistic shot is using the 1st rounder. But if somehow a stud LT pulls out a gas mask and falls to 19, draft them if much higher ranked. The funny deal is those teams drafting in the late portion of drafts don't need edge, QB, WR, or OT..... I wonder why?!??? hmmmmmmm.... plus it pays off for them, cause they do need OG, ILB, TE, safety..... and now they get a top level player to remain great....

I did poor this past yr, even with a above average FA and draft class, I don't see the wins getting 6 and I don't blame any coaches. I swear Icky dropped the win total 2 from his late injury. I feel 4 is the max, but given the NFC south offers 6 games and I see 2-3 "close" games........Theyd have to have more luck than this year to be above 6 wins. Or land a HOF or two form the draft......

Looking at the cap space, panther will only land one big fish if they want. Lloyd should be on the top ten list, just a perfect LB to re-rail a team with rich LB play. He can do it all and no weakness in his game, all 4 downs and he can pass cover with the best. When he needs to tack or lay a hit, he brings the pain. I feel Panthers will get priced out for his services.

Who cares if Luke was getting Panthers money when he said "we", holy sub-human God..... HOFer with whole career at LB with team history of high LB play, "Why does he talk good about Panthers" Geeeez IDK, <cugs bleach with paint> - I wonder too...

If he wants to return like many of the other OL, why not if the price is fair? I forget the huddler ID, but they had a good idea about Jedrick Wills on a cheap return to NFL deal. Honestly when Yosh is in the top 5 options for FA, that's awful for teams... Draft feels like its one of the best spots. I feel they need draft at least two OT and sign one able to start 10 games this season. Dave needs to already form a new set of playbooks with TE helping Left side.....