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That could be right, he's got hot in the last week and garnered attention. Im remaining with the notion he's #5/6 on the picking order. Those back end WRs must play ST.....now if he keeps making plays and pushing everyone down on his way to #1, he doesn't have to care about ST I need the edit the ST snaps with Coker last year, he played in 31 not 5. 5 was this past pre-season game.

I agree, 5 wins feels like red-line. The amount of luck and fortune needed for 9 wins AND playoffs.... its like borrowing it from the future 20 years... I feel BY would have to be in the MVP race as well.

Glad someone is looking good! Not really wanting to trade him, just trying to fix LB corps with a young dog and looking at the WR depth. Just reminding all the cokeheads- he played 5 total ST snaps last season. 5! GameDay Most teams including the Panthers only activate 4 WRs. That's one less than his ST snaps..... The odds are XL, Tmac, AT, and renfrow will be the 4 *if healthy. Now you could start the XL vs Coker and have a case to bench XL, I still think XL is starting even with him boxing recently. Coker is in a number deal, not his fault, just the Panthers have added enough for a player like Coker not to be activated. I'd even say if the percent for #4-6 is weighed with ST in mind, Jimmy horn maybe ahead of Coker on the scale.

My post wasn't meant to discount Sanders, just to explain why he played well in my eyes. I know others are trying to pick him apart and its just ONE pre=season game and all. But imo, he played about as well as any 5th rounder could given everything going. I mean...... even his pre-game walk-in was a "show" and he came to play. I was thinking "this is why you dropped to the 5th"....... Then I watched the game and just like in the draft mega thread- "I wanted to draft him in the 4th or 1000000% in the 5th". let me check the quote wizard......

LG some of your best posting Id ever seen. Ill just add, sanders since middle school has had the best coaching Neon Deon could buy. He called in all his favors and got the best offered. He made NFL throws. Yes against 3rd string and don't know his weakness or game plan.

NFL feels waay different this year.

Yes paying a few guys millions not to coach your team is chair pennies for tepper. Still they stop taking your emails, calls, and texts, or most did this past season. I'd hate hate hate HATE to be in court against Teppers piggy bank. Apple maybe one of few not scared with their lawyers. https://www.wcnc.com/article/sports/nfl/panthers/matt-rhule-arbitration-lawsuit-carolina-panthers-david-tepper/275-67428987-74c1-4bc6-84ef-86cab811d6ca

Panthers, I mean Tepper covers the contract tho. Chris Tabor sat out last year and tepper paid him full. Plus best I understand, in simple terms if RHule signed a 7year(Jay-Z meme) 10 million per deal and is fired. Then Nebraska signed Rhule to a 4 year 7 million per deal, Teppers has to kick in 3 million per year over that span. *But lawyers got involved * I thought Frank Reich was consulting and if that's so, ACC/team can pay him any salary(1.00 - 500,000)and again Tepper covers the remainder. Depends on the written language of contract. I do think at one point Tepper was paying Rhule, Wilkis, Tabor, and Frank at the same time. Best I know when a asst coach takes over, they get a new contract cause they are the HC now, more duties and its messy at that point. I have heard super petty contracts where the former team has to send the former HC one dollar to cover the cost. Tepper was in fact blacked ball by many HCs and coaches, no one wants to move their whole family and be fired within a few months(other teams pay too). Especially after all the "love" and pictures and press about how new HC is going to solve all the Panthers problems. Brian Callahan was the top/only target, but titans gave him a HC contract while Tepper fumbled. Coaches talk and Tepper also fired many assistants, they are just like old women at the hair salon when it comes to talking/gossip.

Great post.

Tepper is on the hot seat about firing coaches. Dave signed a six year deal and I believe so did Dan. I think he's paying around 4 HCs right now, if rhule didn't get the lawyer memo. It's at that point, where average-good-great HC were avoiding the Panthers. Dave was passed over in Seattle and had to take a OC job in TB. One year later, Brian Callahan was rumored to be the main target for Carolina, he took the titans job instead......(that's hella bad). To save face, Dan hired Dave within days to cover the blunder. You can always get someone to take a million+ HC job, but are they worth it??

Not to say Richard Sherman is the same either, but similar numbers. Some-time players just figure it faster than others. Norman took 2 or 1.5 years, he was in and out of the doghouse for many weeks. Then he figured out how to "use" his hands without getting flagged much like Sherman did. Thor was the best part of that game, nearly the only good part....

Its pres-season and all, just that was most of the panthers 1st teamers vs browns 2nd/3rd/rookies. Browns look better even with 2s and 3s. That was a 3 win team and they just looked better prepared, faster, and stronger. I know there's no game-planning. I also know there's Dave&evero didn't call plays. Brother its just been too long with the losing, that's the problem. Pres-season memes or not.

FYI- Best I know he is not calling plays. Not to toss off his hate, at best Im giving 4-6 before I start the "fire" stuff. Whatever happens Dbrown needs some DMVP votes cause he is playing DE, DT, and LB.

Director of College Scouting The chief director of college scouting was a Jaguar scout for 8 years from 2013-2020

one of panther top scouts/ worked for them in high ranking role, see if I can find him.. e- https://www.panthers.com/team/ownership_business/jared-kirksey-x6838 Kirksey came to the Panthers with 13 years of NFL scouting experience, including eight seasons with Jacksonville (2013-20), starting as the club's BLESTO scout, before working as a college scout for seven seasons.

only when they played the panthers

He just got thee Big bag too..... One of the rule of thumbs when the cart is needed minimum of 4-6 weeks until the player is back to health. Other times they are done for the year.

The main problem with Watson besides his tiny towel rapey shenanigans, his contract is fully guaranteed. I read somewhere the browns just spent a lotto ticket on Sanders with the hope he can "save" them until a buyout agreement is done with tiny towel. Garrett is worth every penny, he's another Peppers and there's only 2 of them ever. Ward is right there with horn among Talent evaluators, if not better. He's worth every penny too.

It's the jags, no clue why they do what they do. Like Panthers there's been turn over over over over, I don't know the new GM habits or beliefs. Or if they are switching defense or _______ . DOesnt matter since Llyod is legit great at LBing. True he's not top 3, but PFF top 15 overall ALL LB 2023 and 2024 New trend among teams, they are not doing 5th year options for OG and LB. Even if they are great. Do not ask me why they spent a 1st on LB or OG, just telling you what's happening. My guess is no chance Hunter will double duties. Until he does, I believe he will only play around 10 snaps at WR and full time CB. Brown is one year and meh. SO they need a #2 and #3, thats perfect role for COker. It's a perfect fair deal for jags and Panthers. If I was a jags fans, Id agree. Im 100% Panthers and agree too. Draft pick is fine too. It's just the first time in a long time where Panthers have all their picks, they just got over the BY package and Fitttttterererererererer traded a lot of picks/future picks over the years.

Up until 3 years ago, I was still trying to swing the panther flag. They broke my sprint the following years and I never thought watching ALL minutes of my favorite team would feel like torture. 100% serious. Fixing the least talented roster takes time and I do feel they have truly added some talent during Morgan and tillis era. I don't know if they will win 7, but I do feel rather certain the games will be watchable this year unlike the past two years of eye diarrhea. BY and company should score enough to win/high 20s/more and the defense *should not be ranked in 30s on major categories*. Plus given NFC south is the saddest division, crazier seasons have happen if 9-10 wins gets a playoff game..... lots of luck, Panthers are over-due....