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In our last 2 wins the offense had to put over 30 or more points (actually 24 against the Rams since we had a pick 6, but Bryce threw 3 TDs that game with 0 turnovers so I'm not blaming that on him). I'm not sure that falls on the QB not putting away the other team. The defense is easily exposed against decent offenses. Just throw over the middle.

If you are trying to have a normal conversation with that guy, you are in for a long day...

Yeah he actually played solid. People will get hung up on the total yards his YPA was good enough, he avoided some sacks and made some plays.

Yeah if we sneak in, it's due to a bad division.

It's year 2 for Canales who inherited a 2 win team missing draft picks and with some bloated contracts and now we are 7-7 in mid December. It's ahead of his schedule for the turnaround IMO. 7 wins was the goal with next year being the playoff push. Bucs sucking with injuries made us in the playoff hunt so us fans got our expectations up. There are still a couple ways for us to win this division but honestly we aren't a playoff team yet.

You had a bye week to plan for a bad team and blew the game. This team isn’t ready for the playoffs yet.

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I keep looking at mock drafts out of habit. It’s mid December and we are very much in the playoff hunt. 7 wins is still a good season all things considered but I want to see how they handle playoff pressure.

I probably prefer Cooley but both would be solid options

I think it's known he is hurt but how hurt is the question. It's a left shoulder injury from week 12.

Maybe or maybe he gets paid more to be a DC here vs there. Plus the defense will be his baby vs Evero's wherever he goes. Definitely not uncommon to promote assistants when DCs or OCs leave. Canales will pretty much give him full control of the defense here like he does Evero.

Idzik would be extremely green for a HC job. He doesn't even call plays aside from a few preseason games. Evero probably deserves his shot and I think we would be a comp pick in return. Jonathan Cooley could take over as DC if needed.

I'd love it. Let the coach scramble begin!

Wouldn't that fall on Morgan and Tillis?

If you actually edited those games out every time you mention his last season stats then more power to you. That's not the norm as most people just pull the stats from major sites like ESPN and NFL.com. Have fun looking at your posts for it. Maybe you will see how fixated you have become on a certain topic.

Exactly. Which means data.... doesn't always tell the whole story! Congrats we are officially fully circle again. Love talking in circles with you. Data without context is pointless. You can also skew it to tell whatever story you want, like looking at just games a player starts, GWDs, PFF etc...

Regardless most lists are not removing data from games players missed part of whether they got hurt or came off the bench. I don't think people are removing the game Bryce came off the bench when they are looking at this totals last year. It's typically cumulative.

What do you think that means?

It's pretty simple as they are very close. When you look at season totals Bryce barely beats him in a few stats. When you look at starts he barely beats Bryce. Most of the major sites have their data listed by season totals but you are looking at starts as it helps your case. That's all. Regardless they are playing close with Bo Nix right there as well.

Wins losses aren't really on him. They are what 1-6, 1-7 in games he didn't play. Again looking at just stats without context is not always the best indicator. He did what was needed to beat the Bucs last week including a final drive to run out the clock, he picked us apart and he played well against Miami. The ATL game was pretty bad but overall he has played well these last 4/5 games. If you are wanting to look at wins they are 2-2 over their last 4 after a 1-8 start.

ESPN has this qualifier. To qualify, a player must have at least 14 attempts per team's games played Statistics are updated nightly NFL.com does not and it has Gunner and Cam Akers with the best rating. Just another reason why pure stats are silly. Funny enough neither of them remove data from games players didn't start or finish. Weird right?

I would. Give Shough another offseason and see if he can keep getting better as they build the roster. Honestly Rattler wasn't horrible and could develop into a nice backup as well.

I think Shough is playing well. Kellen Moore knows how to develop/help a QB. If Shough keeps this up the Saints might be able to pass on drafting one this year to give him another season. He is an older rookie so he needs to play well fast and he appears to be doing so. The 4th quarter play was my point. It doesn't change much but it happened to drop him below Bryce which you clearly aren't a fan of so you had to manipulate the data to make him higher and just look at starts vs season totals. Regardless they are very close this year and you seem to think Shough is playing well... which means???

So if a QB get benched his stats for that game disappear? Season totals are typically the stats that are highlighted. What you are saying it all true though. It's why looking at stats without context is pointless. If you are just looking at stats this year Bryce Young mimics Bo Nix. Bryce barely edges him out in YPA and completion but Bo has one more passing TD and the same INTs. They are two very different QBs though but statistically they are very similar. Nix's team is the current 1 seed and we are trying to sneak in.

Correct and the defense is probably in prevent. These were referred to as "garbage time" stats when Bryce does them. It should help the QB in theory.