ForJimmy

Use multiple firsts to gamble on a QB? We can just draft one at 6 this year.

What’s wrong with Baker physically?

What are we using the cap space for? Didn’t I read we have the most cap space right now in the NFL? We are going to give away a young player to free up Darnold’s money for what?

Curve ball!

I think that scenario would be Pickett.

I think the idea for WIllis is to try to develop him into a Josh Allen. Cannon arm, great athlete and develop him into a pocket QB who can keep the defense honest and extend plays with his legs. I hope no one's plan is to Mike Vick him and have him constantly run/take hits.

I doubt Icky and Neal will be there. If the Lions bite on WIllis or the Falcons trade up for him that leaves just one...

I feel like we have a big 4 based on value/need in Icky, Neal, Willis, Pickett. If they are all gone by 6 we could trade down or look at plan B which is Corral/Cross or of course another position...

I don’t think it’s crazy. I said it’s not a terrible idea. I think we can assume Icky and Neal aren’t there at 6. If they are it definitely changes things depending on how high we are ranking Pickett/Willis/Howell. Cross is a solid prospect, but he has been ranged a bit by scouts/analysts. Most people think Pickett and Willis are first round talents (maybe not top 10), but if you are drafting a QB in the first they are projected to be your franchise’s QB going forward. So if Pickett is ranked 12th, but we take him at 6 because we need a QB and he fits the west coast style we are wanting to play that’s not really a reach to me. BPA is never going to be 100% pure because it would be foolish for a team to ignore weaknesses and draft players they don’t need because they are ranked higher. Also we may view Neal as a pure RT and he already have a great player there.

The Darnold trade was terrible and that should never be justification of why to make a trade. If anything it tells me we shouldn’t trade for other team’s castaways. I don’t want to trade anything for these QBs available by their teams. Just draft one like most teams do. We aren’t going to outsmart another organization and snag a franchise QB from them for cheap. The chances of that happened are slim and we got screwed last year trying to do just that. Just take your chances and draft one.

But he has already had several years in the NFL and can be had for much less? That shows he was overvalued and hasn’t reached his drafted potential. Otherwise he would have played good enough in preseason and his start for GB to move Rodgers or trade him for more than a 4th. It’s like trading for Willis after his has been in the league for 3 years and shown nothing that warrants spending a prime pick for…

It’s not a terribke idea. I still think people underestimate the QB position. A great OL and average QB can make you the Colts missing the playoffs. A great QB and terrible OL can get you to the Super Bowl like the Bengals…

Didn’t realize his was today. Thanks @BurnNChinn!

I don’t know how you could possibly know that.

It’s not a deep class and doesn’t have a top guy, but as he states here, there is still first round talent.

He has a strong arm with a quick release, commands the huddle, and carved up some top SEC defenses. He definitely needs to put on some weight and his attitude might be an issue in the NFL.

And was high on Mond…

It’s considered bad because there us no true number one and a large drop off after 5/6. Once you get past Howell/Ridder there isn’t much NFL caliber guys period. I just don’t think this really affects us where we are picking. It’s a bad year to be picking number 1 or if you are wanting to gamble on a later option QB. Pickett, Willis, and Corral are considered first round talent and Howell/Ridder I’ve seen on the cusp of 1st/2nd.

Willis’s overall college completion % is higher than Russ Wilson’s was.

There isn’t going to be a phenom prospect available at 6. If there is one in the next draft chances are we won’t be picking first (especially if we draft LT and solidify our OL) so we would have to trade a lot of picks to get him. Only use one first round pick at 6 and take a chance on one that has potential to be great but needs some work. This is how Allen worked out for the Bills, Mahomes for the Chiefs, Lamar for the Ravens etc…

Either that or he can’t read a defense. Considering he had similar issues at USC and NYJ, I would lean towards not being able to read a defense. Either way it’s shown you can’t trust him when a play breaks down. It won’t always be a perfect pocket in today’s NFL and QBs need to be able to improvise when a play breaks down. Sam is going to poo the bed when this happens…

Wasn’t last year the opposite and you wanted us to go OL? Slater would have been better than Horn and possibly Fields/Wilson/Mac. You have to look at needs and value of players where you are picking. I believe our staff has already said it’s not as weak of a QB class as it’s being made out to be.

Normally I’d agree, but he actually played worse when he had time to go through reads. His best games were early when he was checking down to CMC quickly and only needing one read. In the rare instances he had a pocket he would make the worst decisions.

People that are wanting Stroud next year also need to realize the chances of us picking 1 (probably where he will go) are very slim. If Young plays great he might go 2. If we draft an elite LT and pick up a FA QB we might not even have a top 10 pick. Pick 6 seems like a good spot to draft one this year.