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Especially this year. This draft seems weaker in the top 10 and deeper in rounds 2/3, and look at us with a top 10 pick and no 2nd/3rd....

I’m thinking Neal if he falls to us over health concerns. If the LTs are gone we trade back or draft Thib.

That’s what I got out of it. It’s what every other owner does. He knows Sam will more than likely be on the roster and possibly the starter next year. Trashing him does nothing good. It also ruins any ounce of value/leverage (not that we have any) if some team is dumb enough to trade for him.

A 4th sounds about right. We can package our 4ths to jump back into the 3rd. Gets rid of Robbie in case we trade for Baker and GB is in need of some speed at the WR position. Rodgers would keep him in check throughout the season. It makes a lot of sense really.

They would need to trade down with another high pick only a couple spots down to recoup a second. If Neal falls for health reasons and we land him plus Howell, I’ll be happy!

Get that lotion ready!

Link?

Yeah so he is a LT. Do you think Campen can have him playing LG well?

Where do you think he fits? I think his best position is LT. He just might not be the same level as a Neal, Icky, or Cross. With LT being such an important position I think you still draft one if they are available.

https://www.nj.com/jets/2021/04/nfl-rumors-the-49ers-were-serious-in-a-pursuit-to-trade-for-former-jets-qb-sam-darnold.html Rapoport confirms the interest/timing. Just not that they officially offered a first (yet they offered 3 to move up in the draft). I would imagine it was more of a swap firsts if I had to guess, but we will never know because it makes both teams look bad. The Niners for offering it and the Jets for turning it down. “I know that they were very serious about Darnold,” Rapoport said about the 49ers’ interest. “At the time, the Jets weren’t willing to deal him and really weren’t willing to consider offers until they did the full evaluation and saw everyone throw in person. The Jets really wanted to go through the process. It sounds to me like, at that point, probably around mid-March, the 49ers were just moving on.”

He is never going to learn how to use the internet if you keep babying him!

I need a link to show it's total bullshit please. Seriously man you sound like Sizzle...

Go find it yourself if you are so eager for it. It was an article on how we acquired Sam. The Jets weren’t ready to give up on him when the Niners offered their package (it was a while before we did). Once they were sold on Wilson we were the only team left interested.

That's the point. There are a lot of "ifs" in general for the season. That's why our plan shouldn't revolve around banking on a top 5 pick next season.

With Baker behind a good OL? If CMC is healthy for a majority of the games thanks to the OL? If McAdoo is a decent OC and Campen has our new OL playing well quickly? If Horn stays healthy and plays to his draft status? If YGM shows any growth/development? If Brown plays more like his rookie vs his sophomore year? -Hard to tell. Anywhere from dead last to squeaking in as a wildcard…

Hey I'm not arguing on Pickett, just showing how some scouts/places have him rated and how they were lower on Watson then they should be. There is so many variables which is why we are able to make this any sort of debate/discussion. I'm with you though in thinking this is the draft to take our LT at 6 (providing one of the big 3 are still there). I think I'm leaning towards one of the 3 LTs, then 2 DEs, then trade down if possible. If we don't draft a QB I think trading for Baker for the cheap might be our outcome with the least amount of long term damage. Baker with our new OL could make games more watchable this year.

You said he also never had a statistical season like Allen’s sophomore season. Just showing you that’s wrong. Also showed where they graded Watson lower than Pickett. It’s tough to evaluate these QBs…

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/patrick-mahomes/32004d41-4840-1939-e4c1-bb89191b4e71 https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c NFL.com has Pickett scored higher than it did Mahomes. I’m not saying these guys weren’t as polished as you think. They turned out great, but teams took a risk and developed them properly. That’s what you need to do when you aren’t picking in the top 3. Sophomore season 56% 28 TDs 15 INTs 144.9 rating Willis this year 61.1% 27 TDs 12 INTs 152.1 rating (Allen did have 350 more yards) -that’s just looking at passing to keep it fair. Willis crushed him running the ball.

Allen’s game tape wasn’t good. Willis has plenty of physical talent. It’s easy to sit back and judge these QBs AFTER they have become successful, but they all had some red flags just landed in good spots (Watson excluded). This class does look weaker than normal, but guaranteeing we will get a top 5 pick to draft a flawless prospect is a bit of a reach IMO. I’d be happy with a top LT as they are hard to come by and this class seems deep there, but that should make us better than last year.

Those 3 you mentioned had several red flags coming out of college. Allen was very raw and Mahomes needed to sit almost a year. They questioned if Watson could play from the pocket. That’s his point. If you aren’t picking in the top 1-3 you won’t get a prospect with no weaknesses/red flags. Not at the QB position…

If we get one of the big 3 LTs in this draft and trade for Baker/Jimmy plus we have freed up money for an additional FA if we need, plus who knows what Rhule/Fitt will trade away. Just swapping out QBs in general makes this team very different. Baker and Jimmy shown they can get you into the playoffs with a string team around him. That’s not necessarily the route I want, but it’s a real option our staff is looking at.

It’s irrelevant to banking on next year’s draft. That’s the whole point. We could look way different at the start of the season. So all the “we will get a top 5 pick next year” is nonsense at this point.

Our team isn’t complete yet…