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It explains how good he had actually been for a lackluster team. If we get that kind of play out if our QB then it’s absolutely worth a 1st. Like I’ve been saying is 6 overdrafting him? Yes. QBs have and will continue to get overdrafted in this league and rightfully so. It’s the most important position by a long shot.

Stafford had the resume and talent to be number one yet STILL couldn’t win without talent around him. That’s my point. You need talent around your QB to win in the playoffs. Stafford got talent and look what happened.

https://twsn.net/2021/05/derek-carr-is-the-most-underrated-qb-in-the-nfl/amp

Stafford was the number one pick. You have to build a team around QBs. The Raiders haven’t been the best ran team kind of like the Lions…

He hasn’t had much to work with. See Matt Stafford…

I’d be ok with this! Well us getting a LT, not the Sam Darnold part…

Fair point. Peyton Manning definitely comes to mind with the rapid drop off.

You know most sources who leak info won’t be named right? If these journalist name some of these sources they are going to get shunned.

He had a pretty solid season last year. Right there behind Rodgers for MVP, but year he has to have a drop off eventually…

I get that 6 is high for him, but where is he rated 16th? Being a QB is going to get him over-drafted. I’m just saying he is a solid prospect and it won’t be that bad if we over-draft him. Many analysts have him as the top rated QB on this class and we are either going to overpay/trade away assets for another vet QB or draft one. Option B is safer and easier to overcome if he does struggle.

Yeah he outplayed where he was drafted…. You know that’s possible right? Russ and Dak were 3rd, Brady was 6th, Brees was a 2nd. Come on man you are better than that.

Kiper compared him to Derek Carr who IMO is very underrated. He is what attracted McDaniel to the Raiders. Pickett is faster than Carr, but Carr probably has a stronger arm. https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/12/16/nfl-draft-expert-kenny-pickett/amp/

Yeah WTF would the Manning’s know about QBs. How about he had a conference breaking year statistically passing Watson (the guy we want to trade our roster for) this past season while delivering a subpar Pitt team the ACC Championship? Maybe, just maybe that’s where the hype is coming from?

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/will-grier/32004752-4902-2415-512e-3cae73b00f0f https://www.nfl.com/prospects/kenny-pickett/32005049-4377-7233-6101-772adaebe15c It’s a 84 (good starter) vs 73 (backup). That was where they are ranked. Backups get drafted in the 3rd/later, starters (especially QBs) go in the first.

Hopefully he isn’t.

I’m a bit of an optimist, but I think Wilks is going to have Henderson and Horn playing well by the end of the year. Horn was already showing he is the real deal before he got hurt, and Henderson needs a coach to light his fire and I think Wilks is the man for the job. I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts Robinson at FS. I kind of want Franklin/Burris at SS and Chinn to slide up to LB with Shaq. I also think year 3 is going to be good for Brown/YGM. They regressed a little last year and hopefully they took that personally this offseason. YGM has a chance to start this year with Reddick gone. The defense can be pretty solid even without adding too many new pieces and losing Gilmore, Jackson, Reddick. On offense McAdoo saw something in Thomas and wanted to extend him. Hopefully we run some 2 TE sets to help our OL and utilize Tremble/Thomas in McAdoo’s offense. Finally I hope our new OL coach can further develop BC and get some great play out if him rather it’s LT or he slides to LG if we draft Cross at 6.

I really don’t get the hate. I’d prefer a couple QBs to him, but I would be fine and excited if we drafted him. People are worrying about him fumbling with his hands, umm let’s not let our QB get blindside tackled enough for it to be an issue??

Yeah Grier wasn’t the prospect Pickett is. Pickett is accurate with enough arm strength to make all the throws and the speed to extend plays while throwing off the run. The only negative to Pickett is his hands are .5 inches smaller than Burrow’s and he doesn’t have a Rodgers arm. His arm is still plenty good enough for the NFL and he is a first round talent. I think top 10 is a bit of an overreach but QBs get over-drafted every year. Grier aired it out in the Big 12 like every QB that plays in that conference. He had some tools but seemed to lack pocket awareness and had trouble reading defenses on the next level. He also isn’t very mobile.

Yeah so an NFL QB. If you get drafted in the 3rd you were a solid college QB or have potential to be better. He came back, put in the time in the offseason and got even better.

It’s amazing how terrible they were yet finished 9-8 with a 3rd string QB playing most the games.

There are multiple ways to do it.

Restructure, resign, extend whatever BS moves they need to do to make it work for the salary cap. The Saints have been doing it for a decade now.

It won’t be due to Tepper. Tepper is dumb (at football) and will outbid anyone even if it ruins our team for the next 3 years.

What if HE wants to play for the Saints over us.

They have a top defense that kept them in games without Brees. They have one of the better offensive lines with weapons in MT, Kamara. They were 9-8 with Semien (spell check) playing QB and were a constant playoff team before the QB injuries last year. Throw a talent like Watson on a constant playoff team with a top OL and you have a good shot. We are shopping every player not named Moton or Burns. That tells me we are still in the beginning of a rebuild (which is fine, but you don’t trade away a bunch of assets for the “final piece” when you gave several holes still). Say Watson adds 3/4 wins by himself. That makes them 12-5 or 13-4. We go from what 5-12 to 8-9 or 9-8. To answer your question, I doubt they trade star players (maybe MT). It would be Watson’s decision to go to a contender vs bottom tier team that would make the difference. Only team dumb enough to offer the next 2-3 drafts plus 2 star players is probably us…