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Sam Howell was projected to be a top pick after his 2020 season and Willis was highly ranked as well. So what exactly happened? Is that talent and ability suddenly gone? Or maybe UNC and Liberty (as historically strong football programs…) failed at developing these young signal callers and recruiting OL and weapons to come in so they wouldn’t have to carry their teams on their backs. On the other side Corral and Pickett were draft prospects after year 2020 who did make the jump and develop into bettter QBs, and there is no reason to think they won’t continue to do so. I’ve read Herbert was garbage and underperformed at Oregon, Mac Jones was a backup at best, Josh Allen was raw and didn’t know how to read a defense, Patrick Mahomes was a system QB at Texas Tech, Kyler Murray was too small to play in the NFL. It’s definitely a gamble and guessing game, but if there is a QB that has traits you like and you believe your staff can further develop him into a franchise QB it would be hard not to take that gamble. The potential benefit can very much outshine the cost. Finding your QB might be the most important job of a GM/Head Coach in today’s NFL. The same people who are hating on Willis and this group will start back peddling if they go to a franchise like the Steelers that is ran correctly.

Oh Boye!

Just out if curiosity why do you think he is a game manager? Again he isn’t my top pick or even top QB pick, but you aren’t the first person that said this and I’m just wondering where it came from. He took a Pitt team and put up huge numbers while winning the ACC championship with them (yea I now the ACC had a down year). I wouldn’t think Pitt has the same level recruits as a lot of the other schools, maybe middle of the pack? That makes me think he is outplaying his competition and elevating his team.

From a logic standpoint I would say Rhule thought Darnold was as good as any rookie in the 2021 draft so he passed on Mac and Fields for Horn. I would imagine he knows he was wrong and once again we need a QB so if the opportunity to draft another Mac Jones or any young QB with upside presents itself again, he would look at it much differently. Then again logic and Rhule really don’t go together…

Exactly. Smart QBs can use anticipation and trajectory to get the ball down the field to their deeper targets. Brees was never known for his arm strength, but was adequate enough and very accurate. Peyton was smart enough to run an offense to Brees’s strengths.

Yeah “banking” on finding your guy in next year’s class is also risky business. We don’t know where we will be picking and how the class will look after the season ends. I think the theory is there might not be any decent options this year, so just take care of other needs with a more sure thing like LT. It’s not a terrible way of thinking, but I’m not sure Rhule lets his career ride on another year of Darnold…

He was a mid round pick before this past year. He thought he was better than that because he played on a bad ankle that year so he returned his 5th year and proved himself right. Can’t really fault him for that…

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson won Super Bowls. Jimmy G had a shot this year. What are you going by for top 10? I mean he looked solid and was a rookie. Is he limited? Sure, but you can still cater an offense around his accuracy, and ability to quickly process a defense.

It’s the same thing everyone was saying about Mac. If they don’t have cannons for arms the Huddle doesn’t think they can make it in the NFL. Pickett isn’t my top choice, but he is good at extending plays and making his reads. Seems pretty cerebral kind of like a Mac Jones that can scramble better and maybe has a stronger arm. It’s like you said though, will Rhule develop him properly and create an offense around his strengths like the Pats did with Mac? Doubt it…

I was kind of thinking that. Hopefully we are pumping up the top 2 ranked QBs to get a team to trade with us or jump us and have a top 5 talent fall to us. I could see a team like the Steelers who seem to be high on Willis and Pickett trade up with us to grab their QB. This would allow us to take Howell with their pick and acquire more draft capital. Surely we are naming two QBs we are actually wanting to draft, but who knows with this staff…

https://withthefirstpick.com/2021/12/16/nfl-draft-expert-kenny-pickett/amp/ There is where Kiper compares him to Carr. There are some similarities, but I can see concerns that you could have as well.

I’m not really a Pickett fan, but he can actually read a defense. I think of him as a more mobile Mac Jones. His arm is adequate, probably below average. Scouts are comparing him to Derek Carr. I’m not a fan of him at 6, but Carr is 100x better than Darnold. Honestly I was more concerned with the poster you were agreeing with writing off ALL the QBs after watching a Senior Bowl…

Yeah I think it’s an old school way of thinking, back when the 1st round QBs were making a ton of money. Most teams try to give the drafted QBs a few years to develop, so there is that plus the player you could have drafted instead.

Man just look at who you are agreeing with. Bunch of nonsense. Pickett did nothing to hurt his draft status 6/6 89 yards and a TD, Willis has teams zeroing in on him from his practices and Howell made a bunch of something out of nothing like he did all year. Ridder and Pickett were the only QBs who really had a pocket to work with, but as it’s been stated this game isn’t going to be taken too seriously by scouts. They just wanted to see the players up close, and listen to the interviews etc…

I don’t know if anyone will trade up for us to trade back. Is Glass projected to go in the 2nd?

https://www.si.com/college/hbcu/.amp/swac/glass-touchdown-pass-bowl-game-2022 Some more info on Glass.

Honestly he has a ton of ability and a high ceiling. I wonder where he is currently projected? If we grab an elite OL, then Glass in the 4th/5th, I wouldn’t be mad…

I was hoping he get get on as a backup somewhere, but his arm didn’t look good at all…

Makes a profile just to get banned… Go find a new hobby.

The Darnold move was more of Rhule banking on himself, thinking he was the smartest coach in the league. No one else was that interested for a reason and we were basically bidding against ourselves. The his arrogance jumps to a $18.5 million extension because he was so confident he could “fix” a QB the league had already given up on… If McAdoo really liked Allen and Mahomes the best in their class, he is liking the higher risk/reward QBs. If he is having any influence and we are looking at QBs, Willis probably has his attention. Rhule might be still thinking he can fix Darnold…

You think Rhule is smart enough to move Chinn back to LB?

An entire offseason, plus most rookie QBs struggle at first. The only one who looked ok early was Mac last year in a “loaded” QB class (and he ran a basic run first offense). These scouts are looking at their mental and physical abilities and seeing if some of the best minds/coaches in sports can help mold them into NFL stars. I agree 100%.

Oh yeah we need one. We need a LB too, but we better not draft one of those at 6 either.

No YOU are a backup QB at best!

I don’t want a safety a 6 when we have so many holes and no 2nd/3rd pick. That would be awful…