NAS

Watch them hire someone from Lions staff lol

Baker is a dawg it’s too bad it didn’t work out here

I agree, bring back the old format. There’s too many teams now it’s watered down now

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Eh....I remember arrogant Redskin fans, so I don't really feel that bad for them.

Fug them, especially in this area they were always talking too much shiite

Anyone else remember when Cam used to run everyone was allowed to go head hunting? Now the defenders are too scared to tackle the QB too hard

Ngl I want the Bucs to win, I can’t stand Dan Quinn

Wrong thread 

54 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

O said the same thing until I watched it. It was actually pretty good.

Yes I got hooked because of Cam.  It’s funny how taken the Special Forces staff are with Cam’s size and athleticism, you can tell he could actually make it

43 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

And I say that acknowledging that the amount of trade downs the Panthers have "won" is miniscule

Fittmagic was good at trading down but sucked at who he picked 

Just now, kungfoodude said:

If we fuging trade up to get Carter, fire everyone and do it yesterday.

Yeah it’s not like it’s 2015 and we’re stacked on defense, we need more picks not less 

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Depends on workouts/combine/etc. I suspect he will end up in the last first to early second range.

I suspect his numbers won’t jump off athletically but he’s a damn good football player 

I think he could be available in the second round 

https://fansided.com/nfl-mock-draft-abdul-carter-3-teams-trade-up-packers-falcons-panthers

NFL Mock Draft: 3 teams that should be willing to trade up for Abdul Carter

Abdul Carter's College Football Playoff performance could cause these three teams to trade up for him in the 2025 NFL Draft.

Rucker Haringey| 5:50 PM EST

Penn State Edge Rusher Abdul Carter / Scott Taetsch/GettyImages

Edge rushers are not as popular as quarterbacks in the NFL Draft, but guys who can sack the quarterback can cause teams to make aggressive trades to acquire them. That's why Abdul Carter could be the subject of significant trade interest in Round 1.

The former Penn State standout is widely considered to be the top edge-rusher in this year's class. Some analysts like him enough to believe he should be in contention to be the No. 1 overall pick. Predictably, his agent is not holding back in his praise for Carter. Drew Rosenhaus has already gone on record with his belief that his client will be a "future All-Pro."

That might be a premature statement for some NFL scouts, but there's no question Carter has the sort of speed and bend off the edge that pro teams covet. He looks like the most likely pass-rusher to turn into a double-digit sack artist in this year's draft class. That's why the following three teams may be looking to move up the draft board to add him to their respective defenses. 

3. Carolina Panthers

The Panthers would love to stay put at No. 8 and let Carter fall to them but his stellar play during the College Football Playoff means that won't happen. If the Panthers want to land the draft's top edge rusher they need to move up several spots in Round 1.

Carolina's defense was historically bad in 2024. They were certainly hurt by Derrick Brown's season-ending injury but their pass rush never got going. Expecting Jadeveon Clowney to come back and boost the group in 2025 is more of a hope than a plan.

It's unclear if coordinator Ejiro Evero will return as the team's defensive coordinator. That raises the possibility that the Panthers could switch from a three to a four-man front. Carter has the versatility to play as a standard defensive end or a standup outside linebacker depending on the team's system.

The Panthers might not have the appetite to give up more draft capital after dealing for Bryce Young so recently, but they could be tempted by Carter if he starts to fall on draft night.

2. Atlanta Falcons

The Falcons have been looking for a top-flight edge rusher for what feels like years. Matthew Judon gave the unit a little extra oomph in 2024 but they still lack a guy who really forces opposing offenses to shift their blocking schemes.

Allowing Grady Jarrett to eat up blocks on the front line would free Carter up to rush opposing quarterbacks with reckless abandon. Atlanta needs to find a way to help their secondary by increasing their sack totals. Carter is a perfect fit for what the Falcons want and need to do on defense.

The challenge for the Falcons' front office is that moving up from No. 15 into the top five will be an expensive proposition. Atlanta must be convinced that Carter is going to be a superstar if they are going to pay that kind of premium. Edge rusher is the franchise's biggest need and they have to find a way to come out of the draft with a defensive end with star potential.

1. Green Bay Packers 

The Packers need to come out of this draft with a new starting cornerback and an edge rusher who can make an immediate impact. That might make it impossible for them to pay the immense cost to move from No. 24 into position to take Carter.

It's still a move that GM Brian Gutekunst and his staff need to consider. Rashan Gary will return on one side of coordinator Jeff Hafley's defensive line but the other edge position is open for business. Carter would give the unit a speed-rushing option they don't currently have on the roster.

If the Packers want to go from good to great in 2025 they need to take some big offseason swings. Some of that can be accomplished in free agency but the draft will be a key component of the team's evolution. Making a bold move to go up to grab Carter in Round 1 would serve notice to the rest of the NFL that Green Bay is ready to compete for another Super Bowl title.

27 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

He fell because he wasn’t the elite edge rusher he is now coming out of college 

Yeah I think Abdul put up better numbers and had an extra year to get polished.  Parsons was still an All American selection as a sophomore and was considered an elite prospect 

45 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I need to see his combine. I think he's going to be BY size for edges........ The only light weight that was able to hold the point and pressure&sack was von Miller...... you could say freeny and Mathis. It's a small group.....

Good let him drop to us

16 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

He actually does. Has been arrested twice in college. 

Let’s make it trend on Twitter lol

3 minutes ago, zacka77ack said:

Didn't Parsons have an injury?

No I think he opted out of playing in 2020 due to Covid 

Yes wait until the next bad game or less than stellar performance, they’ll come out of the woodwork 

If Micah Parsons fell to pick 12 (DAL), maybe he'll fall to pick 8 for us

2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Hate to say it but if he needs Pat Surtain money, let him walk. For something lower but still good compensation, re-sign. He’s a good albeit not always healthy player. Focus on the pass rush and deal with one tier lower coverage if your rush can get to the QB. I mean look at what Ron did with garbage at corner for years with quality pass rushers 

He's not going to get Surtain money who's in the conversation for Devensive Player of the Year.  Why do we assume that he's not going to be rational with his demands.

Second, I disagree on just relying on the pass rush.  I strongly believe you need an elite player in every part of the defense (defensive line, linebacker, and secondary).  You can supplement with other guys but you can't just load up on the pass rush and expect to be successful.  

15 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

Reading this thread is insane - some of y'all are truly disconnected from reality.  25-yr old and one of the top 5 CB's in the league - Pro Bowler.  Without the injury history he would demand $23-24M per year from numerous teams no question, bidding war.  Spotrac has his Market at $19.6M/yr - that is likely the best we can hope for and is HIS VALUE.  "If he will take $13M maybe, but not $19M" - are you insane?  NFL players make their money from ages 24-30.  That is the prime years for most positions - that is what they cost and are worth.  Teams don't win championships by paying their top players on each side of the ball the lowest contracts at the position.  There is no way he takes $13M in his prime - no way at all. 

He is one of the 3 best players on just about any defense in the league.  If you wanna win you spend on the top 3 players on each side of the ball outside of rookie deals.  What are you saving money for?  To spread it over 20 other mediocre role players?  Supply and demand people - some of y'all don't understand how this works.  The only decision we have is IF we wanna have one of top 3 players on defense be a CB - how much we pay for him is barely negotiable.  $19M makes him 12th - gimme a break - by the time the contract ends he would be the 20th paid in his prime.  Come on.

Exactly, and the same people are the ones who cry when we see our players doing well on other teams.  Horn proved he can stay healthy this year, he made the pro bowl, deserves to be paid like a top 5 CB, only thing that is really debatable is the size of guaranteed money.  

You keep the top players you draft otherwise you’re always rebuilding. Pay the man top 5 CB money 

4 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Some guy said he would be top 5 if he came out this year lmao. I tried to tell him.

Yeah he sucked

He can be our third QB and save a roster spot lol

25 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

I miss how this place used to be. And I don't want that to be a knock or blame anyone- 7 years of suckage will decimate anything.

Hopefully, though, with the team improving it will become a great message board again.

I know I've complained some, but it's bc i remember how incredible and widely viewed by Panthers fans this place was.

I'm more than willing to chip in for a site update if that's all that is required to make it more usable.

If someone (mods) can figure that out with Jeremy, I'll be happy to contribute/Venmo so we can keep this place going

You should have seen this board in early to mid-2000s.  I had a different user name back then when it was Panthers Huddle. It was twitter before twitter lol