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Any today will be injury related or released with some designation other than released/waived, I suspect. I agree, < 90% will be tomorrow, and most--if not all--in the afternoon.

If Thielen is traded, I'm knocking my vote back to a 4. He's going to be difference maker in 2-3 games this season. Without him, a couple of close games are going to the other team.

We are one of like 6 teams with no released players yet (at least to the public). It seems like the past year or so instead of doing phased cuts, which we have traditionally done, the names are held back until the list is almost/completely finalized.

Are we doing the entire cut list at once thingy again so nobody's feelings are hurt to be the first name released?

We are so jaded at this point that a Panthers player that DOESN'T suck must be a top 100 player, right? Most of our starters are backup on other NFL teams. Nobody got snubbed on that list, our team is just that bad.

SC actually did give a fug at one point, but as a subset of the fan base, have been getting sent to the kids table for years. Once Wofford got the axe, it all but sealed the deal. Only a few die hard fans still dot the state, but we are a dying breed and going extinct rapidly. I used to tailgate with groups of folks that drove up from SC EVERY home game. Back in the day, the amount of Panthers flags on cars going up I-85 was abundant. You got to think of the time, money and commitment compared to Metro Charlotte folks. Extra gas money, extra food, leaving the house extra early for the extra long drive. Just to get sh1t on? Any wonder why SC folks are ditching this organization with the lack of care shown to this state along with an abysmal product on the field?

Bingo! We are on the same page. Our scouting department was average under Hurney, but at least we hit hit it out of the park with our first rounders. Our scouting department under Tepper's reign with his revolving doors of HCs and GMs has sucked because the scouts largely stay in place. One or two may change every few years, but the core philosophy stays in place and I believe that to be heavily RAS influenced. Looking the part of a football player (physical/athletic measurables) vastly outweighs putting on the tape and deep diving into his stats with our scouting department. Until we change that mindset, this team is doomed. Again, how many of us Huddlers (none of us are professional scouts) wanted McConkey over Legette? Yet, we went with XL. Why? RAS score, pure and simple. If you put on the tape and look at the numbers without taking RAS into account, McConkey was the clear choice.

Before I opened the thread I wondered to myself if we had even one. Nope. Had Brown not missed all last season, he probably would have made it.

Howell is not a starter, but a decent backup. He's kind of in the same mold of Hurts athletically, so if he does miss time, they don't have to tweak the offense to a backup that's polar opposite skill set of their stater. It makes sense to me.

The Panthers make bad teams look good. It's a magical power we have.

Another day, another dumb move by the Panthers. I'm numb to this idiocy and have been for a while. This organization under Tepper has ran off or drained the emotional investment of most of it's core fans. I'm around still, but refuse to put more than a minimum amount of time and energy into this team anymore.

I voted a 5. We will be better than last year, but being better than horrible is not exactly awe inspiring.

And that's the problem. Any time you have a WR that makes the QB instead of the QB making the WR, you do not not have a franchise QB...well, legit one anyway.

Josh Allen was not nearly as bad as AR-15. Josh wasn't the most accurate passer in college, but he wasn't nearly as scatter shot as Richardson. To make things worse, Anthony came out as a RSO. Really young, inexperienced AND major accuracy issues? Big red flags for me.

I knew AR-15 was a bust. Dude was crazy inaccurate in college. Big arms don't mean anything if you can't hit the broad side of a barn. Not surprised a jag QB like Daniel Jones beat him out.

Yup, He had a close up view of Williams and said, " I can work with this kid." Not to mention the rest of the roster has some good parts. Kind of like Harbaugh fell into a ideal situation with the Chargers. Not often a HC opportunity opens up with a borderline playoff team and a young, established QB with talent.

They have a cap debt to deal with. Tanking won't be hard to mask in the name of getting their financial house in order. They are 30th next year in cap room and a dumpster fire. If they want to get that under control, FA is an afterthought. Why do you think their QB room looks like it does now? No desire to upgrade.

TE is never a priority in the Tepper era. 3rd, 4th, 5th rounders along with some street FAs. You get mediocre play from mediocre picks.

The Saints will tank a season or two, if needed, for Arch. Apparently they want to bring back a Manning really bad.

Remember this is one of three teams that were all-in on Deshaun Watson. The Falcons bailed because the money got to high. Tepper bailed because the contract had to be guaranteed in full. Only the Browns were dumb enough to agree to that. Had the Browns bailed, Watson would be a Panther. Don't underestimate this team on shying away from absurdly laughable deals.

All bids start high. It will most likely be a 2nd and a player, maybe as low as a 3rd as part of a bigger package.

Yeah, he told Tepper to go F himself. He didn't want any part of this organization.

The League has good tape on the second half of Bryce's season last year. I think defenses will adjust.

Why would he do that? He can hold the clipboard with his good arm and keep the money.

Point being we were a player or two away in 2015 and that ended up in a SB run. That staff knew it. This staff is throwing mud at the wall to see if anything sticks just to save face. Another crappy season and things could get really ugly in the front office, potentially with the coaching staff as well. Besting last year's win total by a game or two isn't going to cut it. No amount of spin can gloss over another losing season.