45catfan

Because we suck at using 'tweeners properly, on either side of the ball. Always have and always will.

I am NOT looking forward to Bryce's deal because you know between now and then the money with guarantees are going to get even more ludicrous.

Gotta have thick skin to be a Panthers fan. The man that helped throw gasoline on this dumpster fire should have the thickest skin, but doesn't.

It's frustration by the Cam folks. We had a generational QB and wasted his talent with inept roster building by management. Now we have a QB whom, at best, will be a game manager and the front office is sparing no expense to allow him the very best version of himself. I can see their point, but what is in the past is in the past.

This is us in two years. I wouldn't be making fun of the 49ers. Purdy got that deal as Mr. Irrelevant. We had the #1 overall pick. Talk about a team crippling contract. They still still have a window if their key players can stay healthy. We haven't even reached a window yet, let alone it being open.

Two starters and two backups out of 11 picks. That's a marginal draft. Great by our miserable draft history, but for teams that doesn't crap the bed most drafts, that would be an average draft class.

The Bears won and it isn't even close.

Cannot be slow out of the gate, that middle of the schedule is brutal. If we aren't 4-0 or 3-1 heading into the Miami match up, the road only gets harder from there.

Unless you're State or Duke fan. Then it's kinds funny.

You have to be good to be on prime time. So essentially, they had us on the last time we didn't suck.

Yup, and they will end up with a top 5 pick in an apparently deep (for now) 2026 QB class. Knowing our luck, if we decide to move on from Bryce in two years, it will likely be a thin QB class.

This is the Saints current QB room, a 2nd round rookie and former 4th and 5th round QBs. Pretty sad when Rattler is your best option even though Shough is tops of their depth chart for right now. Dude would have been a day 3 guy in the 2024 QB class right there with Rattler. A paper thin QB class pushed Shough to a day 2 pick. Expect them to sign a veteran before training camp.

It's not so favorable when you look a t the home and away. We play the weaker teams on the road and the tougher teams at home. If it were reversed, I think we could have a higher win total. My rationale is as follows--we are likely to lose to the better teams wherever we play, but if we had the weaker teams at home, those would be closer to automatic wins. Even bad teams put up at fight on their home turfs.

Taking all emotion out of it, this season Bryce needs to break out or we need to break up. If we are sniffing the top 10, then he ain't it. At that point we need to look at drafting a QB. You know that the Saints, Browns, Steelers and Jets will be in the QB market. Possibly the Giants, Raiders and Seahawks too. There will be stiff competition for the top guys. I doubt we are top 5 and that's what it's going to take to land Sellers. Again, the Saints are tanking for QB1. Arch Manning going to his grandpa's old team lines up almost too perfectly.

This will change after the Carr announcement, but: The banner is over the Jets at #3 and taking Sellers. Yup, that's 5 QBs in the top 10. Sounds about right if all the top guys come out.

The 2025 Saints: I've seen one really early mock with the Saints taking LSU's Nussmeir #1 overall.

That would basically make him a top 10 quarterback based on last year's stats if you break down each QB metric, complied and ranked them. I get the premise of the question--why should we get rid of Bryce after the season if the team still sucks, but it's not Bryce's fault? Fair enough. If Bryce balls out and for whatever reason we still can't get over the hump, he shouldn't catch all the grief for it. However, I will caveat that while stats can add layers of paint to a canvass, they do not always paint the whole picture. So while those hypothetical stats are pretty darn good, if we are inept in the red zone settling for FGs or he's coughing up the ball on sacks or completing layup passes that doesn't get us first downs, then statistically he can have a really good season, but it could leave us on the short end of the scoreboard some games.

The main detractors think we should have went defense in round 1 and then came back to WR in either rounds 2 or 3. In other words, DEF>>>WR in terms of need and thus dinged us on the grade.

Not defending the guy and honestly don't even know who he is, but a lot of people had Sanders going to the Saints until they literally came out the week before the draft and said they absolutely were not taking a QB at #9. Even a few holdouts thought it was a bluff. So everyone that had us taking Williams or Walker are clowns? Only a very few mocks leading up to the draft had us taking TMac. He was a popular choice to us early on (myself included) and, in hind sight, why the "leaks" of us loving Walker to the media was so common. Verge did get one thing right about the draft, Walker was a smokescreen. Sure he may have been the consolation prize if TMac had got taking by the Jags or Jets, but we now know who really was the #1 target.

NFL dot com gave us the 25th best draft class. Full list: https://www.nfl.com/news/2025-nfl-draft-ranking-all-32-rookie-classes-plus-overall-grades-favorite-picks-and-day-3-sleepers

Ha-ha, I bet that went through everyone's mind. Admittedly I don't read all the comments in a thread before I make a post. Great minds think alike!

The last time I loved the Panthers was 2017; they broke my heart in 2018 and have just been my side piece every since then. Ya know, show some interest when I have an urge and ambivalent the rest of the time.

Never put Horn and break in the same sentence. Thank you.

Possibly, but luck was ultimately on Bryce's side because offensive injures started to rack up and Dalton looked exposed after that Raiders game. Remember, Thielen went down for several weeks during that Dalton stretch and the O-line had some bumps and bruises. Just about the time Bryce was inserted back into the lineup everyone started to get healthy.

To me Bryce's ceiling is his backup, Andy Dalton, in his prime. Sure, he may get us some winning seasons and may even get us to the playoffs on occasion, but with an early exit. To me he doesn't have what it takes to be elite and it takes an elite QB to consistently get deep into the playoffs. He's not Jackson, he's not Mahomes and he's not even Allen. In an organization like Philly, he possibly could have what it takes to make a deep run, but let's face it...Philly is well oiled machine and and we are a GMC Grimlin.