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Everything posted by frankw
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We win 2 games largely due to historic rushing from our backup RB we signed in free agency and now the huddle is regarded as the most toxic place on the internet because not everyone shares the same opinion that Bryce Young has proven himself to actually be a long term starting QB yet. This place was just as ugly through the prime Cam years. People complained about him even when he was producing and we were winning the division. Things were just as ugly through the Jake years. Sometimes people would get so irate and fed up with him they would literally be calling for his head. How about we just give eviscerating one another a breather and see how this team and Bryce look on the road. Nothing anyone can say is going to make a difference until then.
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Pete Carroll doesn't seem to be living his best life with the Raiders. That new head coach the Seahawks hired has been a slam dunk. Shouldn't be a far fetched notion to say Pete just doesn't have it like he used to. Raiders are a tough job anyways. He didn't help matters dragging along Geno Smith.
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As far as the OP. We're 6 games into the season. This isn't Madden. You let things play out because you never know what might happen.
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With a full meltdown in tow from quite a few people.
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We can't win ugly against an 0-6 team even on the road. Bryce can't revert to struggling with turnovers. These are the games where you look not only competent but hit your stride in if your goal is to compete in our division like we hope. We need to build a lead and pull away. No excuses.
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For what we were paying him before we traded him sure I'd consider it but for what he's making now no the market has gone insane. If they do trade him though they are idiots.
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Yeah the younger players on the roster on both sides of the ball getting much needed development and gaining confidence is a huge boost for my optimism regarding the staff. This years draft class flashing is icing on the cake. From there we know what we have can compete at least for our division. I just do not want to see us be complacent again regarding QB depending on how the rest of the season transpires. It's a beaten horse yes but it's importance cannot be understated for the future.
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Defeating the Falcons and the Cowboys will always be cause for rejoice. I agree completely about enjoying it while it lasts. Such is the nature of being a Panthers fan.
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
frankw replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
Packers 2023 is Bryce's best full game. And then he followed that up with a colossal stinker against a Jags team without Trevor Lawrence. And that's a window into the conundrum that is Bryce Young and why you cannot and should not read into one game or even a few games. You need to evaluate the body of work. -
Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
frankw replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
People downplaying Rico Dowdle while strutting around over Bryce Young's "game winning drives" is a perfect summary of how far down the rabbit hole this convo has gone and also how low standards have sunk. Enough is enough. We need to see this guy take over some games. Period. He's a third year QB. -
I wouldn't say trap game but we have been awful on the road. If we can't begin a turnaround with the Jets of all teams then it's not gonna happen.
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Like I said I can appreciate it's fun to watch and it's certainly better than the alternative. If we had actually seen more consistency from Bryce and the OL in the passing game I would feel better about the question of sustainability. But for now it's the elephant in the room. Still. I appreciate what the guys on the OL and Rico Dowdle are doing for the run game. That's going to make just about any QB better by default in the short term.
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I can't get with this logic that we have average talent. The tale of woe is a beaten horse here. Downplaying Bryce playing well in spurts across a lot of bad games in 35 career outings is bad. But it's perfectly fine to downplay others around him. Let's try to be consistent here. Expectations should at least match. It's up to Bryce as a 3rd year #1 overall pick to maximize the talent around him at least some of the time. We need to see it because we cannot expect things to go perfectly and there will be times where he will have to takeover games. And yes he and the rest of the team absolutely need to play much much better on the road. We'll see this Sunday. I don't think the Jets are going to be a cakewalk as some seem to be suggesting.
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People are acting like we've "arrived" and if one is a longtime Panthers fan they should know better than that. We're running all over bad defenses. Certainly fun to watch. But the real test will be when we face better defensive units and we have to create a consistent passing offense. That's the biggest question mark. And that's where we need to see the biggest result from our investment in the OL and QB.
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To the folks the last couple years who were boosting up Josh Allen and shitting on Cam Newton. This one goes out to you.
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He isn't going anywhere that contract is an albatross there's not a potential out until 2027. And even that would result in $10.6 million in dead cap.
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Most expensive OL in the league and only set to widen the gap. Time to produce!
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Honestly disgusting that someone who goes out of their way to carry water for Bryce like they're paid to for a living is trying to crap on Rico for his pass blocking. Also the same person who has continually postured to others about being such a superior fan. Should be embarrassed.
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Looks like business as usual for the Falcons.
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Bills defense is getting worked. This same Falcons team looked horrific against us in Carolina. There's a lesson in this for Panthers fans who are feeling themselves right now. You can't overfixate on single games. We got a road game coming up with a desperate team too. Take it one week at a time.
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Eight of Bryce Young's nine wins have come off game-winning drives
frankw replied to TN05's topic in Carolina Panthers
We're currently averaging 22 PPG for the season. The run game has been a huge part of that in a historical context. As far as the passing game we are 27th in passing yards per game. Last year we were 30th. The year before that in Bryce's rookie season we were 32 out of 32. We've seen with our own eyes that we have young receivers capable of making the big plays now. The weapons are there. They might not be perfect but they are there that shouldn't be under dispute. Sooner or later we're going to have to be able to open up the passing game to win games and that will require Bryce Young to buck the trend of low passing output that has been consistent much more often than not across the 35 career games he's played in. -
When Bryce plays well he has help when Bryce plays poorly and turns the ball over everyone around him is a bum. Constantly diminishing 52 other guys to prop up 1 guy only holds up when that guy can take over games. Rookie of the year? MVP? That will get you that kind of clout. Bryce isn't even in the same universe as that.
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I see some folks are already back to diminishing the parts around him. But if someone diminishes Bryce it's a serious problem and maybe they'll even try to fight you.
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I'd like to say there's no way we could see Corbett at center again while Mays has held things down but unfortunately I cannot put anything past my Panthers.
