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The tone of this discussion in the face of facts and actual truths is beginning to remind me of Kyle Allen. Hell at least he showed some flashes to justify the vehement defenses of him.

He received ROTY honors. He looked like he belonged at every level even before Auburn. You're diminishing him to prop up BY.

Cam was a fuging MVP lol Bryce Young put up one of the worst rookie season statlines ever. It's flat out disrespect to draw comparisons.

Scott Fitterer said this practically verbatim before the draft to justify the selection. But now it's apparently a wholly unreasonable and absurd expectation. The level of coddling is worse than with Darnold. And that's saying something.

If you check my post history you'll see that over the last few months I was hopeful he could at least turn the corner into a decent starter for the time being. But the early returns I'm seeing after hearing his "advisors" rejoicing on his behalf for what we spent on the OL after gutting the defense does not look any different than the same guy who hid at the combine when the lights were bright. I'm not going to bury my head in the sand on that.

Only here on the huddle has acknowledging reality become only negativity and or hate.

If he's had over 3 months to think about how his first stint as a professional athlete went despite all the hype that surrounded him initially after playing for Alabama I don't see much changing in another 3 months. Some people only know coping now. It's understandable given the history of our franchise. But that's still all it is.

Specifically the weight room. Not a controversial take.

It's still early no doubt. Right now it's a matter of optics. One of the worst rookie QB seasons of the last few decades. Coaches people in the front office fired. But looks like business as usual for the top overall selection who has always had the best available around him and people to build him up. We as fans can dismiss it. But you can bet your ass some of the teams on our upcoming schedule are taking note.

It's almost like people have forgotten Paradis. I'm in favor of adding some young talent to the Center position.

Don't waste a pick on a QB this year. The die has been cast. Roll with and save that for next season if it needs to happen.

His GM just got fired and he looks like he avoids the gym at all costs. Yet you're talking about manhood size? Who's really got a complex here?

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/scott-fitterer-on-bryce-youngs-size-it-doesnt-seem-to-be-an-issue “Nutritionally we can do some things to educate him, get him in the weight room,” Fitterer said of Young. “

Something something about nutrition right? Gotta maintain that diet I guess.

It's not outside the realm of possibility for sure. But all these major shoe brands are made with the same materials and made dirt cheap overseas in sweat shops. What brand was the shoe that fell apart on a player in the middle of a game awhile back? Was it Nike? Some of this is also just bad luck.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2024-04-05/lavar-ball-lamelo-lonzo-injuries-shoes-workouts-hornets-bulls His pops is out here blaming the injuries on LaMelo's Puma shoes lol. He could be right about the practices though. But plenty of other players can stay on the court consistently. At some point you as the athlete either want it or you don't. Some of these young players of newer generations are just caught up in the materialism side of being a sports celebrity. Even LeBron has called them out for it. At this point if our ownership has any clue what they are doing they will put in place a new regime that will prioritize building around Brandon Miller first and foremost. Where LaMelo will fit in will be up to him. If that is going to happen though we need to hire the right coach. No more softie BS.

It's been an ongoing shitshow since @ Pittsburgh 2018.

It's a longshot but something could still happen for Bryce Young. I doubt he will ever be anywhere near that significant of a centerpiece as Cam Newton was to the Panthers though. The sad thing is leading up to the draft of all the QB's in the class Stroud reminded me of Cam the most. The way he carried himself. He acted like he actually wanted to prove himself instead of hiding at the combine. He seemed genuine. He was as we know now despite people trying to sabotage him. At the end of the day no matter how much hopium any of us can fill ourselves with none of us can escape the fact we seemingly shot a brick and faceplanted onto the floor when given an easy layup repeat of the 2011 QB draft class with the first overall pick. We didn't even opt for Marcell Dareus. We took a tiny Blaine Gabbert. The documentary years from now about the top 2 picks of the 2023 draft is going to be entertaining.

He's been dealing with some life issues and probably doesn't want to continue to be berated about his outspoken support of Scott Fitterer over the years. Now on the one hand I say at some point we have to let him move on from his mistake. On the other hand though many here know how condescending he could get toward anyone that challenged him on the subject. Funny enough on the subject of David Tepper he used to tell me personally I was being paranoid and engaging in conspiracy theories because I felt Tepper was involving himself too much in team personnel matters. Well look where we are now and look what we know now. Mr. Scot has previously and still can bring good content here. But if he wants to move on from his position on Fitterer he needs to just admit even the man who he used to badmouth on a regular basis for being an awful GM (Marty Hurney) is and was significantly better. At least he could hit in the first damn round!

I had to check this myself. Gordon has played in 75 games the last 2 seasons compared to 58 for Ball. Pretty fuging sobering.

Yeah on paper it looks like our divisional opponents will be ripping this secondary a new bunghole. Maybe having Evero coaching the defense will lessen the burden some we'll see.

I had lost track of the fact he will be 34 this summer. I guess that shows our desperation. Also shows how older some of us are getting waiting on this shitshow franchise to finally get it's act together lol. The draft is the better course of action. Let's see if we can actually do that worth a damn now that Bobby Hill is gone.

Nothing against Clifford he seems like a good guy and I appreciate his honesty. This team desperately needs some new and real leadership though big time. Get a hard nosed coach/GM combo in here who are about basketball and who want players who are about basketball. Anyone not interested in winning basketball games and more interested in Instagram thots and flashy cars can take their services elsewhere. This fanbase wants a team worth cheering for.

Things like this are said about different positions pretty much every single draft and then multiple players from said positions fall.