Loyalty4Life

I want to throw in how much easier it is for a QB to develop and improve with a good oline. Huge credit to the front office for spending the money on our two guards. Cade Mays also had a 2nd really good game starting at center. Love how he has developed and hope he's the real deal. Look at what Stroud is dealing with now in Houston after injuries and problems with their oline. Strouds accuracy has been greatly affected as it seems like he doesn't trust his protection. Canales is doing a great job developing Bryce. I think the QB whisperer might be for real. And obviously big props to Bryce. First round pick that looks horrible in his first year. Different coaches and systems. Fans and media are calling him the biggest bust in NFL history and he looked like it in the first two games this year. Gets benched. Young man keep his cool and just continued to work and only worry about what he can control. I hope things continue like this and we end up with a great success story. Bryce Young kept pounding.

No one has "arrived". The young guys are continuing to improve. Bryce took a huge step in this game but still has plenty to work on and improve just like our other young players. I love Canales's approach to the game. Love Dan Morgan's early returns on his first draft. Keep building. Keep getting better. Keep pounding.

Great game by Evero. He's putting our guys in great positions to make plays and calling a very smart game. With our current personal and the Chief offense it's pretty impressive.

My wife woke me up with great morning funtime, then breakfast in bed. Cooked a huge spread for lunch during the Panthers game but she's 2 pounds over her ideal weight so I'm pretty sure I'm going to divorce her. And go Panthers!

Great job for the defense.

With a young head coach I like having a DC who can carry that side while Canales continues learn and focus on the offense. I know that Canales has history with Salah.

If you had stopped at 5-6 years I would be with you but come on, Cam was the culture. For a few years there it felt like we had the Lebron of the NFL.

Before the season I thought we would win 5-7 games. Tracking.

Man, if Cade's performance against Lawrence is any indication we may already have our starting center. Way too soon to tell but that is a great single game against one of the best DT in the NFL.

Last few years it seems more teams are letting a QB sit and learn. Many have pointed to lack of college development. I'll add a win now, immediate results mentality as well. Mahomes, Love, Purdy, Maye. I think it will be a growing trend.

I knew you'd be proud.

Can confirm. I've met a number of them IRL. Most are exactly as you imagine.

I say hope til you drop. Kinda the whole point to watching sports. Be somewhat realistic. I only want improvement. Canales has already shown with his benching he isn't going to put him on the field without good reason which to me would be best chance of winning or learning and getting better.

Don't shoot the messenger but I fully agree with his points on today's expectations.

Here. Maybe JC Horn can say it better than I can although I'm not going anywhere near as far as JC is but I would expect him to see the situation better than I can.

Bryce Woung. My mistake. LOL. I really should care enough to proof read better.

Maybe. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5683925/2024/08/07/nfl-players-pilates-fitness-recovery/ https://www.instagram.com/reel/CniQuHTJIDg/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=076cb6f3-e2a5-4dca-8e9e-8106dabd5b25

Yes, absolutely but I would throw out the first two games except to say that is how bad he started out. If I'm Canales I'm looking forward from that. What is different? Did sitting and watching improve him in any ways? Confidence, becoming more familiar with the system, a new coaching staff, new players? Since that reset Canales and Morgan have repeatedly said they have a plan for Bryce. We've seen that plan over the last three games and we've seen improvement. That is literally all I'm looking for at this stage. Is he improving each week? Is the team growing? Is a culture developing. Ya'll keep acting like I'm trying to convince you Bryce Young is great and has no flaws or that he's ready right now to lead us to the playoffs and super bowls. All I'm saying and keep repeating is give Canales a chance to do what he did with Geno and Baker and enjoy a win without poo posting.

Sigh. Literally the very next paragraph, you cherry picking troll. "Of course, you don't end up winning a Heisman or being picked first overall if you're too good at laying about doing nothing. And he admitted that sleeping in lasted all of about a week, at which point he got back to morning workouts and getting ready for the physical challenges to come." He goes on to talk about his growth, path towards improvement, etc.

I've said that over and over. Bryce may very well be exactly what we are seeing. I've also repeatedly said that my argument isn't really about BW. Pick any widget. Pick any player. I would not bet my job on any evaluation based on last year. I think that our coaching staff, players (especially oline) and scheme (Frank's was beyond awful) are better than last years. Then we trot Bryce out in the first two games and he played HORRIBLE. BAD. YUCK. Based on those first two games he regressed greatly from his rookie year. So, Canales benches him to see if he can fix him and begin to put him on a path toward improvement. Canales was hired in part because of his work with similar QB's who struggled. Canales saw he was horrible. Benched him. Realized he had some things from his rookie year he needed to undo. He developed a plan and path that is in progress now to see if he could turn into something. All I keep saying is let's find out. Beats riding out the year with Dalton or some random UDFA and man what if Canales does do what he did with Geno or Baker? Geno was so bad he was a back up for 7 years. We got Baker because no one else, except Matt Rhule, wanted him and even when we did get him the Browns paid most of his contract.

Yeah, it's hard for me not to act like an asshole considering the entire thread begin as a troll job and one that has been beat to death to the point that a lot of fans here complain about so much it's almost like an inside joke.

My whole point is finding even a decent NFL QB is hard. No reason to give up on one with potential until you find someone better. Throw out his rookie year. If anything it hurt him as I think we can all agree the first 2 games of the year he looked and played the worst football of his NFL career. Judge him like a rookie in Canales's system from week 8 on. Here are more. All of these are not mirror copies of Bryce. My argument is the NFL is hard and the path to being a quality NFL starter isn't always a straight one and guys can get better, especially guys who work hard and are willing to learn like Bryce. Alex Smith, Rich Gannon, Vinny Testaverde, Jim Plunkett, Brett Favre, Ryan Tannehill, Doug Williams, Tommy Maddox, Jake Plummer, Josh Allen, Jordan Love, Geno Smith.

I don't want to go to fast for you. Here is number three and it might be the worst start for a HOF QB ever who went on to win multiple superbowls. 1970: Starts: 8 Record: 3-5 Passing: 1,410 yards Completion %: 38.1% Touchdowns: 6 Interceptions: 24 1971: Starts: 13 Record: 5-8 Passing: 2,259 yards Completion %: 47.7% Touchdowns: 13 Interceptions: 22 Combined two-year totals: Record: 8-13 Passing: 3,669 yards Touchdowns: 19 Interceptions: 46 Passer Rating: 36.1 (1970), 54.9 (1971)

Our next contestant was so bad the team drafted another first round QB after only 2 seasons but this short stack still went on to improve and become one the NFL's best passers. 2002: Starts: 16 Record: 8-8 Passing: 3,284 yards Completion %: 60.8% Touchdowns: 17 Interceptions: 16 2003: Starts: 11 Record: 2-9 Passing: 2,108 yards Completion %: 57.6% Touchdowns: 11 Interceptions: 15 Combined two-year totals: Record: 10-17 Passing: 5,392 yards Touchdowns: 28 Interceptions: 31 Passer Rating: 67.5

1985: Starts: 5 Record: 1-4 Passing: 935 yards Completion %: 52.2% Touchdowns: 8 Interceptions: 7 1986: Starts: 14 Record: 2-12 Passing: 2,282 yards Completion %: 53.7% Touchdowns: 8 Interceptions: 13 Combined two-year totals: Record: 3-16 Passing: 3,217 yards Touchdowns: 16 Interceptions: 20 Passer Rating: 63.1 This HOF player went on to be traded after his second year and went on to win multiple super bowls.