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Development. You really think he looks different than two calendar years ago? I just don’t. Icing on the cake is he was supposed to be developed and ready to start, and win, while making average WRs better. Point guard. Elite processor. Ring a bell? Everyone has had to forget about that and just hope he can look average. 95% of his time on the field has been a fail, maybe 90%. He has caught lightning in a bottle one game, and maybe a half in a couple of others. Or a drive. That’s about the size of it.

Yeah. I mean he has no above average physical anything, and the bad mechanics and footwork weaken an already borderline arm. I was so baffled and frustrated with the narrative that had him as top pick. As far as going forward, you have a stack of 25 games where he was bad and over here, maybe 5 games where he was good, one where he was damned good. One. Moving forward with him is being completely blind to reason.

I was hard against that trade. My red line is you don’t trade future 1st round picks. You just do not ever do that. That is what Hurney did that turned me against him. All I know is everything I watched with Young playing football screamed to me, do not buy into this he can’t succeed against NFL talent.

Lol I was working from the other direction, thinking they could attach antennae to their helmets with a lil flag at the top he could just throw to the flag.

I guess. For me I am a layman football scouting wise. I know nothing really. But just 10 minutes of critically looking at Young via videos showed it to me. I don’t think Leaf, for instance, would have been easy that way. He had the prototypical stuff. To know he would bust, you’d have to have the skill to dissect his mental potholes. And probably some one on one time with him.

He was horrible his rookie year but he was much improved last season. To the point he could serve. I am hoping….

Basically he is saying the last pick of the draft and Bryce Young are interchangeable. Okay Purdy could have gone higher obviously. And I’d have probably taken Bryce if he were there in the late 3rd. Edit: strictly on his size and arm, he would be off the board until then. Standards.

I was thinking he has to be in the running for ‘most likely to bust’ though. I am sure there were a couple more. Manziel comes to mind but I think Bryce wins. Jamarcus or JaMarcus was a piece of work and it seems like the good teams should have sussed that out. Quarterback Fever is a bad germ to catch.

This is a score for someone. Go through the motions of getting the banner and renting the plane. Leak the news and wait for the buyout offer.

According to members of the fan club ‘Bryce’s Believers’ you are not allowed to count the 16 games from 2023.

Because everyone is picking on him and treating him very unfairly when none of it is even his fault?

I am not that worried over how they will do if they can stay healthy. Icky is a run blocking fool. Lewis him and Mays ought be able to do something.

Sure let’s do better. I want a bad ass defensive guy. Vrabel would have made me happy. Finesse teams do offense. And we are damned sure trying to do finesse. Can’t even do that right, we have nothing going.

Yeah. And I knew we were going to be bad for years messing with lil buddy college all star. When they kill your hopes for three years at one whack, it is tough.

Maybe he talked with him and expects him to play better. Might be a one more chance scenario. Gotta wait for Coker to come back or something. Legette will force his hand with much more of his crap though.

I know he caught most of the grief over Mike Evans. While using street FAs or practice squad guys to cover him. 3 times. I understand that excuses are just excuses and it did happen. Still, his record of 6-6 in 12 games beat out every single head coach in the Tepper era except 2018 Rivera who won 7 but had 16 tries. So I misspoke when I said every single coach in the Tepper era because 2018. But he got everybody else. I think he was a better HC than a DC no doubt. Hell I wasn’t impressed with him as our DC. After totally loving him as the DB coach. Anyway I don’t feel bad about preferring him over all this crap since.

Didn’t expect him to be a problem child but starting with the first play of preseason he has been one.

Uhh, Luke. But this was a great outcome for a pick. Especially for us.

Lol I don’t Want to get mad about but will end up taking a look at the breakdowns.

I haven’t seen the games but the reports of lack of hustle and effort are damning him in my book. I had hopes for him this year but that is cause for being inactive on game day.

Yeah I didn’t remember how many guys were on offense besides him that were taken but did figure he was facing one, maybe two guys that would be drafted from whatever defense it he was playing. Then the out of conference games against smaller schools that are basically exhibitions, sheesh, you know they can feast. The other thing is, out of those 62, how many really had NFL bodies at that point? Few of them. Most will be different players after a year of NFL training and body development. So you have to think about what the difference is. Even with the SEC guys that got taken, they will be better in the pros too. So when you factor all that in, and look at the Bryce tape and the Bryce pro day and whatever, I just will never understand why.

I understand very clearly that Wilks’ approach in ‘22 wasn’t going to make us able to beat the better teams, but he got us competing and succeeding against the teams we should beat, similar teams to us. And it felt the best any stretch has felt, under Tepper. But Tepper and the mob here had to have themselves the Offensive Minded HC, play caller guru. How’s that working out? I know this: guys in the locker room were all about Wilks. He equaled or bested the win total of every other coach under Tepper before or since. It is a fact, and not for nothin. FWIW I didn’t think he was gifted as a DC, when he was here as the DC. But he was excellent coaching DBs. All those jobs are different I guess, take different skill sets. I think his strength as a HC was getting people to follow him. That goes a long way. After what has befallen this team since rejecting him, I don’t feel like a lesser fan for supporting him, I promise you that.

Yeah, it is top heavy representation more concentrated in the top tier schools. Vanderbilt, I listed as having no one drafted. So we know their defense had no draftees. But I didn’t find a list that broke it down for offense and defense. A team could have a couple guys drafted, from the offense. No way to know without combing through depth charts and draft results. So no thanks. Basically, the numbers would split out to around 4 guys per team. But as you pointed out, 17% were on one team. Then what about Georgia? LSU usually has a few. That leaves fewer spread through the rest of the conference.

Very little difference. There was a stretch when he was benched but getting garbage time and I saw that he had Finally paid attention to his throwing process. Canales had him taking three steps planting and throwing. At times. And he looked much better. I mean, using the Bryce grading curve, which is average for most = really good for him. But he isn’t focusing on it and I see the same bad footwork that he brought with him, far too often. He just does not have the arm to disregard his fundamentals. I have been talking about this since year one, the mechanics. It is very hard to tear down the old and put in new, and not revert to your familiar, old, comfortable way when the heat is on.

Alabama yes. In general the ‘SEC success guarantees NFL success’ fallacy was really tough to overcome too. You still have to look at the player and extrapolate what their college performance would look like against a team full of NFL vets. I think 62 SEC players were drafted in 2023. But there were over 1600 players rostered on SEC a teams. You might even face an SEC defense that had no one drafted. Like Vanderbilt had no one taken in 2025. So you just can’t blindly hold that hey he was great in the SEC he is a lock. Damn, especially with a weak armed little guy with bad throwing mechanics,