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Possibly, if memory serves me, the best NFL arm ever.

About Baker--with the additions to the OL and this offense, I think he would prosper. However, if you get him now, you also get to add a top OT. If you do not, you have to draft a QB, bypassing a very strong LT. Baker needs a good running game, some decent to good protection, and weapons. He would have that here. I think, in a weak QB draft market, you trade a fifth rounder for him IF Cleveland absorbs $9m of his salary. However, if he plays well, he will want $35-40m for 2023, and we are still building--which is why Fit wants a rookie. So you could trade for him and offer him a voidable, back loaded contract that would be pretty much incentive laden. I am not sure Baker would take that deal, not sure we would offer it. I really get the idea that we want a rookie to give us 4 years of building. I am not of the mindset that he is a bust and I think he could fit this offense. Considering his locker room issues and maturity concerns, the risk may be too large--but all QBs come with large risk. That is how I feel right now, fwiw--I am just not that happy with the rookie QBs and see potential in Baker. Look at his 2020 stuff--and that team was not as good as the one we can put on the field this year, imp.

While I am a UNC fan in the ACC, I still think Coach K is the greatest college basketball coach of all time. And I think Dean Smith is immortal--I know a few UNC players who told me about his relationship with them--(Al Wood, John Virgil) and both said he was like a father to them--during and after they played at UNC. Coach K started getting into those "one and done" players (everyone does to an extent) and it was not the same for him because both he and Coach Smith helped players grow into men. We were fortunate to have 2 great coaches in the backyard.

no, I did not--makes more sense now. (did not read the thread--just read your post and laughed a bit--not trolling, just thought it was funny)

I have learned that when you use the phrase " let's get real" in a sentence and follow it with 2 hypothetical statements that necessitate the adverb "probably", your argument is lacking substance. (Just kidding--and I agree--but when you prefaced the statement with "let's get real" I laughed with minor nasal discharge).

sounds like his frame is maxed out--could not add 10 lbs if he needed to

Because then it would say, TTIP. I am done.

I am not sure that the Panthers are players for Baker if he is cut.

What if McAdoo sees something he thinks he can fix in Ridder---so he has Dumb and Dumber hit the airwaves talking about the top 3 QBs. Then--we trick em.

If you get realistic and start considering the situation (if Rhule still has control of roster) then there will be a compromise. Rhule says yes to Fitterer who wants a rookie QB to build around, but Fitterer says yes to Pickett, even if he thinks Willis or Corral are better long-term solutions. OR they agree to take the T as 6 and trade up for Ridder in early round 2.

There are only about 5-7 teams that would sign Mayfield if he was released--nobody is giving them draft Capital for a $19m child who will seek big bucks in a year. I think the plan is to go with a young guy for 5 years while we build the team. In today's NFL if you have not proven your worth in 4 years, prolly need to spruce up the ole resume.

I am not high on Ridder, but if so, we are talking trade back or take the LT and trade up.

April Fool's jokes really don't go here. You were fooled.

They cracked open the Baseball steroid scandal in the 90s.

I know one thing--no frachise's gm and head coach are talking about the draft more than Carolina. Jeez

I think they are going Pickett--but I change my mind away from Pickett a lot--different players, but it always comes back to Pickett. If I were GM, I would take Pickett if taking a QB. While the others have skills, Pickett is the most complete player and there is NO LAW that says he is at his ceiling. Who made that up?

Howell too. They saw him play in BOA a time or two-Rhule was on the sideline (I think). Think about it--howell and Wilson have many of the same skills. He is not mentioning Howell, and if we trade back say, 10 spots, we could be starting to get into Cassel, Howell, Ridder, Strong range.

About those of you wanting a LT--me too, but BC can play there and our problems were mostly G/C issues. I think, when all is said and done, BC goes to LT and Bozeman and Corbett start with Paradis and Moton. That is the OL.

Very keen insight. He did not mention Howell, but he mentioned Ridder. I think they saw Howell in Charlotte a time or two during the year. Just speculation, but he could be the guy if we trade back. Right now, DJ and Bucky have the top 3 Edge guys going 1, 2, 3. That means Icky and Neal are probably next--so does a team want Sauce Gardner? Willis? etc. We could trade back. I see Seattle trading with the Giants to get Willis. If so, that would leave Sauce and a top T. We could trade back with that. Watch Philly. They may want to move up.

I would have said 95%-5% 20, 30 years ago. But same page.

I think playing QB today is about 65% mental. Where the physical traits are becoming more significant, the mental aspects of the game must be elite. A strong arm with average to poor accuracy is not as impressive as a QB with an average arm who throws dimes. A QB that can run is not as important as a QB who can read defenses. With Willis, as with the rest of the QBs--you can't get too caught up in one or two aspects of his game--you have to look at the entire package. To me, his accuracy is not great and his ability to read a defense at this point has to be in question--like Howell, like Corral.

good point

I mean, your title had a question mark at the end--and there is enough here to suggest that they might be leaning Willis.

It would probably be Travon Walker if we do-- I wonder how the Huddle would respond to another defensive player in the first round?