raleigh-panther

9 hours ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

He finally hit puberty so that's a good sign. Proud of ya, little buddy.

I must admit…I did laughed out loud

... Then again, I admit to being shallow 

My goodness…Tepper is looking…a little … rotund 

7 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Just because all draft picks are a gamble doesn't mean you don't have a better chance at hitting on a better player the higher you're drafting.

It would literally be like someone saying, I'll give you 1 or 2 free spins on a slot machine, and you say you'll take the 1 because you're not likely to win anything anyways with 1 or 2, so why bother?

The Cowboys desperately wanted T-Mac, but because they were 4 picks behind us, they weren't able to get him.  If you told Cowboys fans that had they lost 2 more games last year in a lost season, that it would get them the player they wanted so badly, would they in retrospect go back and lose those games to get their guy?

95% of them would take that trade off in a heartbeat, and the others who wouldn't are the fans who would rather enjoy an extra win or two in a poo season to then set themselves up to be better for the next decade.

I also think the fans who argue against this thinking, get too caught up in the "well that means you're going to be rooting against us late in the season even if we still have a shot at the playoffs."

Which isn't true, it's saying if you're telling me right now we'd make the playoffs but lose in the first round, that I'd rather end up 8-9 or 9-8 and just miss the playoffs because in our opinion, the benefits that come along with that outweigh the benefit of the players getting 1 game of playoff experience.

They didn’t want him bad enough to move up and take him…did they…

….and their team has survived by picking up a veteran WR…whether that is good or bad is yet to be seen 

…just like no one knows how McMillian will do…the NFL is littered with failed high draft choices 

You seem to always forget players also have individual contract incentives.  They are not going to roll over for a franchise to have better draft position.  Nor would any player, free agent or drafted, want to come to a franchise that pulls them out of the lineup

nfl players have a short tenure.  They want that individual money…if the team is 0 and 17 or 17 and 0, they still have those individual monetary incentives 

15 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Unless a miracle happens and we're legit SB contenders, I want to just miss the playoffs due to some close losses, not win the division to lose in the first round.

We finally have all of our picks again next year, I'd rather be picking 5-7 spots higher in each round, while at the same time, then having a 2nd or 3rd place schedule next year instead of a 1st place one.

I just can't see any scenario where we are true contenders this year, but we should find out if Bryce can be our QB of the future.  If he isn't, then we're not making the playoffs anyways and will have a high pick to replace him.  If he is, it means 2026 is the real opening of our SB window once we add some more defensive pieces, so I'd rather go into that season picking earlier and have an easier schedule.

And yes, I know people will say think like "you need to win to gain confidence and experience, blah blah blah"

But just missing out on the playoffs because you lost couple close games is certainly a way to make a team hungry going into the offseason and keep them motivated to be better.

I've said it before and still think it holds true, we need to look at the Lions and hope to repeat their path.

Our last few years were their early 2020s when they sucked.  This year can be our version of their 2022 when they missed the playoffs in week 17.  Then our 2026 can be their 2023 when they made a run to the NFC Championship game (and really should have won it).  Which then puts us in line to be one of the best teams in the league going into 2027, as they were last year.

‘You play to win the game’

This isn’t Madden and I can assure life has zero guarantees 

Frankly, who knows what the world will be next month much less in 2027 or if any of us will still be here.  

…as George Allen said ‘the future is now’.

…long range salary cap planning, yes. Long range draft scouting, yes.   Everything else is right now   As far as Young, time to produce over 17 games…current management owea him nothing   
 

17 hours ago, MHS831 said:

He is a game manager--average.   Unless you have a Mahommes or Allen or Burrow--trade your starting qb and draft one. I could pour the money in my defense and OL and draft a promising young QB.  Wow.

Cam Newton got skewered for saying the same thing…I.e., the truth 

If you are buying Silver Club, 300 level, try and the buy ones that have the Lot 1 parking pass. 

it is steps to the stadium

Also, buy on the shade side

my PSls used to be section 342, under the overhang.  I didnt care about sun or rain

plenty of sites have interactive  maps that can show you   Just know, if they are opposite side of 342, the sun will beat on your head…endzones too.  

if, you know for sure that you are going, and you need a hotel room, do it now  you can always cancel

… remember, even if the panthers suck,  the national press follows them as do their fans.  Hotel rooms go fast for that game 

Lord, 

3 away games in sept

…. And no bye until Dec 2 is freaking brutal 

𝗕𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴: Ravens safety Ar'Darius Washington has torn his Achilles, an MRI confirmed, per @RapSheet 

He will be out for the 2025 season.

that market might be a little tighter now….

I hope it works out for Zack

he has does much for fans of the franchise in spite of the poor product on the field and poor owner in the owner’s box

There are people, not me, who have that type of disposable income   

if they chose to spend  it on the NFL, more power to them 

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Your momma was a wise woman.

She was

i miss her every day of my life 

i was blessed to have her

My late Momma said to me more than once growing up:

’You can make your life easy or you can make your life hard.  It is your choice   Choices can have consequences that you will pay for so choose wisely’

Smitty is a grown ass man.  He is going to  pay  a very large price   Not my business.         i hope he gets his poo together 

i am a ‘keep life simple and live up to my obligations’ kinda person 

The good news, the price for Bryce is finally paid

if he shits the bed this year (and i do not believe he will), they can move on…good draft class ahead 

…and they did not reach too badly

let’s be optimistic. Cant hurt

Just now, Murph said:

Ravens take the big risk

They can afford to…they can cut him and not miss him

 not true for the Panthers 

31 minutes ago, ATLpanther said:

Did Mike Green kill someone a couple days ago?

Well…it’s a billion dollar business. 

it is hard enough to win a single game without distractions 

…the Panthers had two bad issues….the Browns showed  what taking a chance gets a franchise   

I do not blame these franchises one bit   Don’t need stupid

Jalon walker come on down

Sigh

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Because we win meaningless moral victories on the back half of wasted seasons.

Let it go Louie

44 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

It will depend on how the weigh him against their best defensive player. He would have to be rated higher on their board for them to take him instead. 

…or, what they really think of Ickey or if Moton is wearing down…we just don’t know those inner discussions 

35 minutes ago, Billy Goat said:

A smokescreen in order to draft someone (Williams) nobody in the top 10 is going to touch. That's not really how smokescreens work.

I thought I read Williams said he had a lingering ankle issue from the season that slowed him during combine / workouts 

I was surprised to read it as I had not heard that before 

if that is factual, forget about it 

Wishful thinking 

Some real bad ones in here….take a walk down memory lane

Ranking every Panthers draft class

1. 2001: Dan Morgan, Kris Jenkins, Steve Smith Sr., Chris Weinke, Jarrod Cooper, Dee Brown, Louis Williams, Mike Roberg. 

2. 2002: Julius Peppers, DeShaun Foster, Will Witherspoon, Dante Wesley, Randy Fasani, Kyle Johnson, Keith Heinrich, Pete Campion, Brad Franklin. 

3. 2011: Cam Newton, Terrell McClain, Sione Fua, Brandon Hogan, Kealoha Pilares, Lawrence Wilson, Zachary Williams, Lee Ziemba. 

4. 1995: Kerry Collins, Tyrone Poole, Blake Brockermeyer, Shawn King, Frank Garcia, Michael Senters, Andrew Peterson, Steve Strahan, Jerry Colquitt, Chad Cota, Michael Reed. 

5. 2012: Luke Kuechly, Amini Silatolu, Frank Alexander, Joe Adams, Josh Norman, Brad Nortman, D.J. Campbell. 

6. 2005: Thomas Davis, Eric Shelton, Evan Mathis, Atiyyah Ellison, Stefan LeFors, Adam Seward, Geoff Hangartner, Ben Emanuel, Jovan Haye, Joe Berger.
 

7. 2007: Jon Beason, Dwayne Jarrett, Ryan Kalil, Charles Johnson, Ryne Robinson, Dante Rosario, Tim Shaw, C.J. Wilson. 

8. 2008: Jonathan Stewart, Jeff Otah, Charles Godfrey, Dan Connor, Gary Barnidge, Nick Hayden, Hilee Taylor, Geoff Schwartz, Mackenzy Bernadeau.
 

9. 2017: Christian McCaffrey, Curtis Samuel, Taylor Moton, Daeshon Hall, Corn Elder, Alex Armah, Harrison Butker.
 

10. 2006: DeAngelo Williams, Richard Marshall, James Anderson, Rashad Butler, Nate Salley, Jeff King, Will Montgomery, Stanley McClover. 

11. 1996: Tshimanga Biakabutuka, Muhsin Muhammad, Winslow Oliver, J.C. Price, Norbert Davidds-Garrido, Emmanuel McDaniel, Marquette Smith, Scott Greene, Donnell Baker, Kerry Hicks.
 

12. 2014: Kelvin Benjamin, Kony Ealy, Trai Turner, Tre Boston, Bene Benwikere, Tyler Gaffney.
 

13. 2018: D.J. Moore, Donte Jackson, Rashaan Gaulden, Ian Thomas, Marquis Haynes, Jermaine Carter Jr., Andre Smith, Kendrick Norton.

14. 2003: Jordan Gross, Bruce Nelson, Mike Seidman, Ricky Manning, Colin Branch, Kindal Moorehead, Walter Young, Casey Moore. 

15. 2000: Rashard Anderson, Deon Grant, Leander Jordan, Alvin McKinley, Gillis Wilson, Jeno James, Lester Towns. 

16. 2021: Jaycee Horn, Terrace Marshall Jr., Brady Christensen, Tommy Tremble, Chuba Hubbard, Daviyon Nixon, Keith Taylor, Deonte Brown, Shi Smith, Thomas Fletcher, Phil Hoskins.
 

17. 2013: Star Lotulelei, Kawann Short, Edmund Kugbila, A.J. Klein, Kenjon Barner. 

18. 2015: Shaq Thompson, Devin Funchess, Daryl Williams, David Mayo, Cameron Artis-Payne.
 

19. 2004: Chris Gamble, Keary Colbert, Travelle Wharton, Drew Carter, Sean Tufts, Michael Gaines. 

20. 1999: Chris Terry, Mike Rucker, Hannibal Navies, Robert Daniel, Tony Booth. 

21. 2020: Derrick Brown, Yetur Gross-Matos, Jeremy Chinn, Troy Pride Jr., Kenny Robinson Jr., Bravvion Roy, Stantley Thomas-Oliver. 

22. 2022: Ikem Ekwonu, Matt Corral, Brandon Smith, Amare Barno, Cade Mays, Kalon Barnes.

23. 2016: Vernon Butler, James Braderry, Daryl Worley, Zack Sanchez, Beau Sandland. 

24. 2023: Bryce Young, Jonathan Mingo, D.J. Johnson, Chandler Zavala, Jammie Robinson. 

25. 2024: Xavier Legette, Jonathon Brooks, Trevin Wallace, Ja’Tavion Sanders, Chau Smith-Wade, Jaden Crumedy, Michael Barrett. 

26. 2009: Everette Brown, Sherrod Martin, Corvey Irvin, Mike Goodson, Tony Fiammetta, Duke Robinson, Captain Munnerlyn.

First round (No. 8 overall): Jalon Walker, EDGE/LB, Georgia

Second round (No. 57 overall): Jaylin Noel, WR, Iowa State

Third round (No. 74 overall): Bradyn Swinson, EDGE, LSU

Fourth round (No. 111 overall): Harold Fannin Jr., TE, Bowling Green

Fourth round (No. 114 overall): Cameron Williams, OT, Texas

Fifth round (No. 140 overall): Korie Black, CB, Oklahoma State

Fifth round (No. 146 overall): Jordan James, RB, Oregon

Fifth round (No. 163 overall): Nick Martin, LB, Oklahoma State

Seventh round (No. 230 overall): Tim Smith, DL, Alabama