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Above my pay grade for sure. I think it will be enough to resign Baker which was my post

So much angst about 2 series in the first preseason game. Why over think it until we see what happens

I am in the Panthers camp not the Rhule camp

No that is a better record than last year against a much harder schedule. We have multiple examples where 7 wins was followed by a big jump like in 2013 and 2015.

That is how they are working and this is the NFL and McAdoo is making the decisions so yeah that how things work.

Exactly and that is a relief. Look at how everyone except Jones did as rookies last year. Corral playing this year would guarantee a top 3 pick and drafting another qb. If he sits we probably stick with him. So he is more likely to be here if he sits and doesn't play than if he does and disappoints.

Second string, fourth string. Whatever. Delhomme was third string in 2003 going into camp and we all know what happened. No Corral is where he should be. At the bottom until he proves otherwise.

Corral has done nothing to earn that position at all. I would hate to see him start if Baker got hurt. It could be much worse than Darnold and that is saying something.

I haven't read that. I thought Baker and Darnold were evenly split.

Sure they do. How about Green Bay with Love or San Francisco with Lance. What about Mahomes in KC. I could go on but this is enough. Fourth string or second string it often helps a qb to sit. Corral needs to sit and absorb those mental reps otherwise he is lost as you can see. He came from a simple college offense to a complex NFL offense Baker said took a lot to master and this is his fourth system.

That isn't true if you look at the first depth chart. Maybe based on film things will change after the New England practices. Things are starting to get clearer. No need for panic.

That because you already know the answer before you ask questions. You don't like Rhule and nothing will change that at this point.

Because he made the decisions in the past where now he has smarter guys making the decisions for him.

This year has nothing to do with the last 2. We have real coaches now.

Because the line isn't set yet and several starters missed the game for various reasons. Maybe letting Baker work with both first and second readers helped him worked to his benefit. Didn't Darnold have the same guys?

Because last year only 16 qbs didn't miss time with injury. Both Mayfield and Darnold got hurt at some point. So if you don't want to put all your eggs in one basket you develop both of them figuring you will need both to win games this year. If it was all about reps and injury wasn't a concern you would have played Baker more than one series. Obviously it isn't just a competition but belief we need 2 guys capable of starting. You can disagree with that notion but he has a plan

It isn't hard to figure out. It means that his interest is on winning games now so the starters get all the reps. Corrals reps aren't important right now. It isn't bad coaching. It is teaching a new offense to a bunch of guys allocating reps based on priority. When your job is on the line you don't worry about next year you focus on the present. Once Baker got here the importance of Corral playing right away went way down which was a good thing. I expect if Baker has a good year he will be resigned to a big contract. There will be plenty of time to develop Corral.

The indicator of a good offensive scheme and good coaching for me is whether all the qbs have some success. That means the scheme is quarterback friendly and the qbs understand the scheme enough to execute it. As Baker alluded earlier in a post, this scheme let's the qb make choices at the line to take advantage of the defensive scheme. That is music to my ears. Adjustments at the line to get favorable matchups. And apparently this is new to Baker. What if this will be the best scheme he has ever played in.... We can only hope.

Corral did play with scrubs but got rattled by scrubs as well. How he compared to Howell is irrelevant. It was good for him to get his first taste of live action. There is no pressure on him to do anything. And his 3rd round trade up will be what saves him otherwise PJ is much better at this point. But that doesn't matter he will get more work next week where he might get a full half. And he will make the roster. But the folks touting him as the best guy we have now see the foolishness of their proclamations. He may be one day but not this year.

Vanilla or not there were some takeaways for me. Thought we mixed up plays pretty well. We didn't look totally predictable. I thought getting in and out of the huddle was generally good. The scheme allows QBs to audible and move folks around. We had some good misdirection plays that had guys wide open. Everyone QB moved the ball which suggests good scheme success versus individual QB talent.

Gonzales is doing great and our punt and kickoff coverage looks good. How many times did the returner make it back to the 25?

You aren't paying attention. You don't gameplan in the first preseason game so you go vanilla. We seem to be better against the run although Roy was getting moved on double teams. Playing more read and react because our secondary is going to be good. Frankly I like it better than the sellout at all costs to get pressure.

I know it is the first preseason game but it looks to me that tacking is good and guys are in their lanes and moving toward the ball.

I attend home games and some away ones as well. I don't get drunk and don't get in fights. Sure some idiots do and others have a big mouth. But if you are respectful to others they usually are in return. There are exceptions but most times some other jerk will take them on leaving me in the clear.

I know it will be vanilla and no gameplanning but we will see our basic schemes on offense and defense. I am interested to see what McAdoo does this year. He has been a west coast guy but Rhule likes to.pound the rock. And on defense how does the secondary hold up and how good are our linebackers really. Gameplanning or not, talent is clear and being around the ball is instinctive.