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2 minutes ago, Alemanders said:

No one is behind this line, be honest with yourself 

No one is in this offense, line is bad, but even when there is time the routes are garbage. 

League knows it.

Brady = just squat.

Tep needs to buy Brady some help Monday morning. Personel aside, biggest issue is clueless playcalling outside the red zone.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Robbie is most upset that he has gone right back to being what he always has been after his one season….

Robby also simply isn’t playing good football of late.   And a lot do that has nothing to do with Joe Brady and is all Robby. 

Maybe so, but what upset him Sunday was the lack of adjustment. He recognized the Eagles had the playbook... 

He wanted us to double move,” Rhule said Monday. “They were sitting on some routes. He wanted us to double move, stutter and go.”

Brady should have seen it first and adjusted, he did not. Sam's last pick was a terrible throw, but it doesn't help when the CB knows exactly where the ball is going vs biting on a comeback while Robby blows past on a double.

7 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

This is the same weapons we had last season when Joe Brady was the talk of the league; trade Marshall for Samuel & Mike Davis for Hubbard. 

Ball distribution was much better almost had 3 separate 1000 yard receivers. Robby Anderson was considered a steal in free agency and underrated signing. Now he's lazy and can't run routes. 

This place is amazing lol. yea every position is subpar on offense this season, even the Qb play. 

 

The NFL caught up to Brady PDQ. He's just not a good play caller yet, repetitive and predictable in the long game, doesn't seem to adjust at all. He's been indirectly called out by several opponents for this, and likely what set Robbie off on Sunday. 

Player personell being what it is, the quickest way to get right is improved scheme and play calling.

I know they won't but I'd like to see a consultant brought on to help Brady. He isn't ready to be a coordinator.

2 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Speaking of O-Line :

Rick Wagner, OT, Packers. Age: 31.
Rick Wagner played very well for the Packers last year, but he was released because of financial implications (Green Bay was $11 million over the cap.) He is still a solid starter in the NFL.
 

https://walterfootball.com/freeagents2021OT.php

 

What does everyone think?   Kick the tires or not?

He's basically retired, doubt he's been keeping in shape.

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hopefully he didn't apply the same MO to his password

Um password or 1234 or...Crap I forgot, it's autofill. 

3 minutes ago, Varking said:

Lots of people here love talking about people that aren’t here. And they constantly spell #1 picks name wrong as their username. 

Sorry guys, no idea why I picked that scab, I think I was trying to praise the current leadership, and went sideways.

But my user name is just laziness when the huddle re-spawned it was the default

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Three winning seasons out of fifteen isn't "not the best". It's sh-t.

Now as to the owner, I'll agree we're improved there as long as he remains hands off and lets his football people do their jobs.

Yes and all but one of those was under Jerry who refused to pay staff, let every single coordinator walk, and underpaid for replacements. 

We had a poo owner, if you choose to blame his lieutenants fine.

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah again, not true.

Marty only managed three winning seasons in fifteen years as GM. Gettleman got that many in five, and had us in the playoffs with significantly more consistency.

I don't hate Marty, but let's be real. He was sh-t as a GM

I have high hopes for Fitterer to be better than both 

I don't agree Marty was poo (there have been and will be much worse). I agree he wasn't the best.

Don't know how I got there anyway, what I said originally, it's nice we have an owner committed to buy the best in the business. 

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah that's...not really true.

The Panthers got loads of attention early for reaching the NFC Championship in only their second year. Seifert had em in the public eye in 1999 as well.

Marty got us some attention from 2002 to 2005 but then outside of 2008 we pretty much faded from view again till the Newton pick.

The notion that Marty brought us any kind of consistent prominence just isn't accurate.

Yep, and Marty was there for all of it outside the expansion boost.  I know you hate the guy and that's fair, but if you rank him amongst panthers GMs he's currently 1st in team success. 

1 minute ago, PanthersATL said:

Going to miss the 99...

1 minute ago, PanthersATL said:

I'll dig up the 1998 numbers eventually.  In the meantime, 2006 numbers show:

• Charlotte was #26, ahead of San Diego (27), KC (31), Buffalo (49), Jacksonville (52)
• Adding in High Point would put the area in-between Seattle (14) and Minneapolis (15)

still not "small town" in terms of TV market size.

Honestly don't bother, I don't disagree, it's not about market size so much as relevance (sorry I used that term). And from a media perspective the panthers were on the bottom of the shoe until 2002, an Marty hand some hand in changing that.

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

So was Jimmy Clausen

Touche

4 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

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All our fans should get out of the mindset of promoting the incorrect perception of the Panthers being in a "small market".

Charlotte by itself is TV market #22, ahead of other cities with NFL teams like St Louis (23), Indy (25), Pittsburgh (26), Vegas (40), Jacksonville (43), New Orleans (50).

If you include Greenville/Spartanburg -- the panthers would be #12 just ahead of Phoenix and Seattle.  Throw in High Point/ Winston-Salem and we're ranked between San Francisco and Dallas. 

Saying "small town" just isn't accurate when you compare the "Carolina" marketing area to other parts of the country.

Yes now, hurney joined the Panthers in 98.

Just committed in the games thread how nice it is to have a committed owner with big pockets. I expect the panthers to have the best front office and staff in the league with Tep.

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

If he'd known...

Well, best for us that he didn't.

I know your thoughts on Hurney, but he did play a big hand in making an under funded small market franchise relevant. No excuses but he was about as competent as his skill set allowed, Tep even acknowledged  that..

The issue was always Jerry being tight and controlling.  And that included the GM position.

3 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Yup.  Tepper was so afraid that Rhule would take the Giants job he went to his house where he waited for him to come from vacation from Baylor's bowl game.  He helped him carry in his luggage.  After a few questions they went into full on recruiting.  Rhule grew in up in NY.

 

 

Yep an wrote a big fat check to seal the deal. Can't discount his desire to win, and spending power. You can't buy championships, but money makes it easier. See pretty much every perennial contender ever.

9 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Definitely feel like it's starting to shift under Rhule.  I feel we're on that precipice similar to what happened in Seattle once Schneider and Carroll got there.

Love him or hate him, the big difference is Tep, big money makes a difference, why Rhule, Brady and Fit are here. Can't spend over the cap, but can out spend everyone on staff and facility's. 

So far seems he doesn't seem to meddle,  hopefully he's our Kraft.

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Yeah, I'm over it, but it does suck to just never get any respect.  No matter the years that go by, the amount of time we've been in the league, the players and coaches that come and go, a change in ownership - we have to be the most disrespect or at minimum, the least respected team in the league.

I think those days are fading, every time I hear the panthers mentioned now days it's competent, young talented. Maybe not hyped. But clearly well thought of

I keep reading about what happens to Sam in a shootout. He's built for just that, his issues don't stem from placement, or necessarily reads, as much as trusting his recievers and throwing it up vs wasting a play. He also has a short memory and trusts his arm, Same trait superstars get praised for when their playmakers make the catch. 

I know it was coledge, he was a 19 year old frosh, but here's sam in a shootout when he has playmakers.

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

The Jake comparison is largely decision making and simply doing stupid things.  

better arm or not....Sam's play and talent doesn't put him in the next tier where the Cam Newton's are (who also did dumb things with the ball).  So Jake is probably as good of a Carolina comp as their gets.  What's between the ears is what essentially defines every NFL QB. 

Jake brought a steady mix of good and bad.   But what he lost his moxy.....the bad made winning with him too hard.   That has been Sam to date.  Good and bad.  Minus the moxy. 

No argument from me, and pleasantly we'll get to see. Sans rock solid kicker, and roided up (allegedly) line I see semelaritys between 03 and this team.

Just now, Jon Snow said:

I am not sure I would go that far but he does have more arm strength and athletic ability than Delhomme. 

But Jake had that innate ability to somehow make a throw that you knew was in no way going to get there but I'll be damned if it didn't.  

He was just clutch when he needed to be. Until he wasn't.  Tommy Joan can eat a bags of d****.

Anyway, I really can't say who he reminds of just yet because I don't think we've seen who he truly is at this point.

Totally agree, just wish Jake realized he couldn't Lazer into the flats like he thought he could. Broke my heart to many times with the pick six...