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They just signed Tyler Huntley, and it's reported that he'll be playing. Two greenhorns, huh? I'm not convinced that Sanders or Gabriel are necessarily better than Plummer at this point. And I know damned well that Dalton should outplay either one of them. You're talking about their third and fourth string QBs. Let's not get carried away with the new kids on the block.

OK, I know that it's wrong---I know that it's wrong---to put undue importance on a preseason game, but If we can't beat the hapless Browns with their trainwreck of a QB situation (and a still unsigned rookie RB), then who the hell are we going to beat? You can't lose to the damned Browns. Not this Friday.

Oh, sorry about that. Let us know about your son though. Good deal! Hopefully some of us will still be around and in our right minds in six years. It's an outstanding achievement just to get a scholarship. My great nephew (by marriage) was awarded a baseball scholarship to one of the two schools in Bluefield, West Virginia (can't remember which one). He couldn't handle the college life though and ended up returning home. It was all there in front of him...he just couldn't keep his priorities in order and let college life get the best of him his freshman year (hell, he didn't even finish the year). Keep your son close and keep working on him now about his priorities and attitude, and making responsible decisions (outside of baseball). He's young, but there's still a way to frame things in a way that he can relate. Sorry, just a little unsolicited advice.

Wow! Glad you made it and came out good as new.

Jon Gruden has an entertaining delivery. You won't see vids, but you will here his review, and he will take you to the whiteboard on occasion. He's not really committing to any prognostications, but he loves the O-line, expects a lot from the run game, and is decidedly optimistic about Bryce. He likes the defensive acquisitions that we have made in order to fix a terrible defense. If you're only interested in the Panthers, then go to 41:35.

I haven't seen anything, but for the drop at Fan Fest. I've heard of some plays being broken up, particularly one on Friday that he said he should've caught.

There's literally nothing they can do during preseason that will make me buy in. Win in September, and then maybe I'll begin to get excited.

The players and the coaches can learn a thing, for sure, but it sounds like David Tepper could learn a lesson from Dawn Staley as well. She may have been talking to the ownership of the WNBA expansion team, the Portland Fire, but she may as well have been talking to David Tepper. https://x.com/SarahSpain/status/1948903470721106025?t=sxiveMATKzcgzhTVY5URyw&s=19 “Give them a voice as they unveil the team, give them a saying and perspective. [You] may not take [their ideas], but even if [they’re] being heard, [they] feel a part of it,” she said. “Don’t leave them out. Don’t wait until [the team’s] already established to start listening. Start listening now because I often find that when you treat people good, they treat you better.” Staley doubled down on the importance of following her blueprint to build fan loyalty. “I hope that the owners really give the fans what they want,” Staley advised. “Like, hear them out. They are the consumers; they are the people that’s gonna buy season tickets.” Staley is talking about fans coming by her office, and Tepper won't even allow fans at practices. *Sigh* “South Carolina has been the leader in attendance for the last 10 years in college basketball. Little old Columbia, South Carolina,” Staley stated. “Mom and pop, you can come past our office, you can sit down, you can have a conversation with us. We give you access to us.” https://sports.yahoo.com/article/dawn-staley-drops-fan-building-222737800.html

This can probably be unpinned now. We were already accused of not caring about actual football and only here to debate over potential draft picks and trades.

I think depth is almost a surety.

Dabo sighting. Dawn Staley sighting. Who's next?

"South Carolina women's basketball coach Dawn Staley was in the house and talked to Panthers players and coaches about what it takes to reach a high standard." That's pretty cool, actually. She came to motivate the players and coaches (even though she is a Philly native and proud Eagles fan). I wonder if Jaycee and/or his girlfriend were the impetus behind the invite. Maybe it was the FO. In any event, I like it. https://www.panthers.com/news/dawn-staley-brings-her-message-and-championship-mentality-to-team-meeting

The altar of Tepper...

They're not going to put skinny posts on the real field. Plus, one of the reporters even referenced Fitzgerald's performance on the regulation posts in a question to Canales during the presser. Canales essentially said that Fitzgerald has to finish.

I mean, I get your point due to age, but at this point I think that it's way too early to say that Horn is better than Moore. Plus, they are different receivers. As for Coker being better, I think that his rookie season has provided him a better trajectory than Moore's career early on, and that it's easier to project Coker being a more impactful NFL receiver. But age, alone, will likely put Moore at a great disadvantage if he is considered redundant in correlation to Coker. Moore will not beat out a healthy Thielen or Renfrow. Their ceiling has simply proved to be much higher.

Come on, man. A little play with his wife in public is not porno. It certainly could be considered low class, especially for those that are uptight, but who is going to really use that as indicative of being a "bad" person? "Berate local owners?" That's hyperbole at best. Tepper got a little "pissed" about the sign that referred to him being a meddling owner in 2023 per the restaurant owner, but the owner didn't say Tepper "berated" him or his business. The same restaurant put out a different message (on the same sign) in 2024 about letting the coach and GM pick. Tepper visited and asked about the sign, as well as removed the manager's Eagles cap from his head (you can see it all on video), but this was entirely lighthearted. Tepper even shook the man's hand. The owner said that Tepper is welcome back any time he likes. And then there's that phrase, "by all accounts," Tepper is a terrible owner and person. No, by your account. Fans want the Panthers to win, for sure. Has he been a bad owner? I guess if you look at a lot of his moves in regards to football. Is he trying to change his mismanagement? He is. I don't think everyone thinks that Tepper is a "horrible" person. He's an imperfect man that is perhaps hot-headed and inappropriate at times, but that doesn't rise to the level of "scumbag."

Tet or Legette...hmmm...Tet and Legette, it rhymes. Not quite Double Trouble (and a different position), but Tet and Legette could become a thing.

I heard that one day out of like five and was reported by a tweet from Joe Person. Unless Person was right there on them or heard it from the coach, I don't know how he drew his conclusion. That being said, I have become aware that regulation posts are 18½ feet wide, while the so-called skinny posts are 9 feet wide. That's a big difference. The skinny posts are supposed to help with aiming and accuracy when it comes to the regulation posts. This makes me feel a little better, however I don't see anyone consistently saying, "That would've been good on Sundays." It would be nice to know the specifics every time they practice. Of course, Fitzgerald was one for three on regulation posts last night. I saw it somewhere that the misses were 40-50 something yards away (as well as the make).

Jerry ain't taking the trade request seriously. The ball is in Parsons' court. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/jerry-jones-dismisses-micah-parsons-trade-request-as-negotiations

He's an apt backup receiver as well, with ties to Dan Morgan and Dave Canales.

I will never get the Dan Snyder comparison. David Tepper has angered a lot of fans with purely business moves, for sure, and he's come off as somewhat of an asshole at times, but I don't see him as being a bad person at his core. I think that he's misunderstood, came in thinking that he knew best because of being a successful business man, takes things perhaps a little too personally regarding his team at times, but at the end of the day has done everything he has done out of a desire to win. I get being upset at Tepper. Fans are angry about his business decisions that have indirectly affected football operations. They are angry at his football decisions. Fans are mainly mad at him due to losing when you get right down to it. Snyder was really on another level. I may get some flack, but in some respects, Jerry Richardson was closer to Snyder than Tepper ever was. The sexual harassment if not outright impropriety. The racist sentiment. The toxic workplace. We have heard none of that during Tepper's tenure. Snyder was also "playing" with NFL money, so there's that. From a purely football perspective, he was a bad owner, but that's the only real comparison to Snyder, but I still believe that Tepper is going to turn that around even if many don't. It's been said here that there is "zero evidence" of change on Tepper's part, but that's just not true. If Morgan can see it, and guys like Pat McAfee, among others, can see it from afar, as well as report on it from other insiders, then it's pretty obvious that change is afoot. At the end of the day, at least in my opinion, if being a shitty owner based upon bad management and having a big ego because you're a successful business man is the major comparison to Dan Snyder, then Tepper is not special.

Hell, can Jimmy Horn even run block? I wouldn't think so.

Generally, I think it's a tad early for winners and losers, but I know why people do it. We're not going to jettison Coker unless we have a solid reason to do so (like an unexpected trade), but I don't see that realistically happening. In my opinion, people are blowing up Jimmy Horn way too much at this point. Veteran experience is still a key component when deciding who actually gets jerseys on Sundays. Not saying that Horn doesn't have a chance, but it's going to take more. Special teams is not being given to him, and he is not the only person that has participated in drills (and he has at least one drop). Let's chill on Horn a little bit. My default of Renfrow wasn't on the bubble. Despite many people thinking that he was JAG, I knew better (and intimated it from the beginning). His problem was health. That being said, his problem is still health, but he's in remission. Hopefully it's for a long time, but I still believe that he's a near lock at worst. Turk Wharton was brought in to rush, but he was also known to be an apt run stopper. Honestly, all the free agent acquisitions were signed with the run in mind. Now none have had the season that Derrick Brown had stopping the run, but he hasn't either, except for that one season. Turk Wharton just might have the complete goods though. This will be his season to show his wares. I can't even seriously say that Bryce will continue his ascension, and I surely ain't using preseason to make that proclamation. It's going to come down to what Bryce does in the regular season, and I believe that 2025 is going to go a long way towards defining Bryce's career. I hope for the best.

His resumé is solid. He stepped it up his last two seasons, I'll give him that. That's all though. He's in the big boy league now, and missing kicks in practice isn't going to give anyone fuzzy feelings. Accuracy, at all times, on the field and in practice, will make the "dogging" cease.

Dude, your sentiment and this link could've easily been put in the thread that we've been chopping it up in since Friday.