Why drafting a RB or defense won't solve our issues.

[chknwing]

"How to prevent teams from going up 2 scores on you" draft defense.

 

drops mic

[GoobyPls]

Look up the stats and I guarentee you most every team will have a losing record when being down by 2 TDs. The point is to not get down by 2 TDs. Seahawks won the Super Bowl and got to another on their run game and defense, not their pass game.

 

If I recall coming into 2014 we were tied with Browns of teams with worst record when trailing by 2 scores since 2011, the Browns had 2 comebacks  last season so I believe we have the worst record percentage wise.

 

 

The patriots just won the SB thanks to their passing game.......

[GoobyPls]

A few years ago we drafted a player we didn't exactly have a "need' for at the time, a kid by the name of Luke.

Seems to have worked out okay so far.

 

We needed a QB, we drafted Cam it worked out for the best, same goes with Kelvin

[rayzor]

If I recall coming into 2014 we were tied with Browns of teams with worst record when trailing by 2 scores since 2011, the Browns had 2 comebacks  last season so I believe we have the worst record percentage wise.

 

 

The patriots just won the SB thanks to their passing game.......

 

[uncfan888]

We needed a QB, we drafted Cam it worked out for the best, same goes with Kelvin

 

but this contradicts your argument... Cam was clearly the best player in that draft, so we took the BPA. And Gettleman has preached over and over that he believes in the BPA philosophy, so Kelvin must have been BPA when we drafted last year. We just happened to have needs for them. They weren't drafted because of that, though

[LinvilleGorge]

We needed a QB, we drafted Cam it worked out for the best, same goes with Kelvin

 

As has been pointed out already, sometimes the stars aline and the BPA happens to coincide with a huge need.  See:  Cam, Star, Short, KB, etc.

 

I think need absolutely plays a role in the draft process.  If you're looking at a few similarly ranked prospects, sure, take the one that fits the immediate need.  But, like with Luke, when you're sitting there looking at a "blue goose" you simply take the guy knowing that it'll work out in the end.  When given the opportunity to add elite talent to the roster in the draft on a cheap rookie contract, you do it.

[GoobyPls]

We didn't have an immediate need for Kony Ealy when he was drafted, but that quickly changed.  We didn't have an immediate need for a LB when Beason and Kuechly were drafted, but both were (are) great players for us.

 

Every team needs good players.  You don't draft a guy who you think is marginal as a prospect for that particular draft position solely because of need.  That's how you get into trouble.  Remember Hurney double dipping in the 3rd at DT with Fua and McClain because he was desperate at DT?  Everyone considered those picks reaches and they were.

 

Lets be serious for one moment, if we were to redo the draft we would have drafted another receiver instead of Ealy. Ealy was non existent for the majority of the season, no way would we pass Robinson, Landry, Moncrief, Bryant or Brown a second time around with how bad are receiving core was last season. 

[GoobyPls]

but this contradicts your argument... Cam was clearly the best player in that draft, so we took the BPA. And Gettleman has preached over and over that he believes in the BPA philosophy, so Kelvin must have been BPA when we drafted last year. We just happened to have needs for them. They weren't drafted because of that, though

 

That's just a flat out lie, go find me a top 100 board from 2011 no one had Cam as there number 1 ranked player

 

Let me not even bring up what most panthers fans thought about Cam at the time, cause everyone is going to come out looking like Hypocrites

[Batman]

I would like to hear that argument, I would rather draft for need than a player that we have no need for.

People always bring up this being Stewart last year, but fail to realize theirs a draft next year. Next years RB class is just as good if not better.

If you were in charge we wouldn't have Luke Kuechly or Kony Ealy.

LoL

[TheRed]

Purely drafting for need is obviously not the solution. OP is attempting to make some kind of point, but not doing well at all.

 

We've poured a lot of resources into our defense, and there isn't anything wrong with that. But people seem to have a short memory about how bad that defense was at one point last year. 6 blowout losses in 10 games. That's pretty fugging bad. There really is no way around that.

 

DE is a need with the loss of Hardy, and our secondary is still a work in progress. Obviously we still need to keep upgrading our D.

 

But last season made it pretty clear that we definitely need more offensive firepower if we want to compete with the best of the NFC, and not just squeak by flawed teams. If we have the opportunity to grab another legit WR in this years draft, Gettleman should and will make the pick.

[pantherclaw]

I believe it was John Lynch or one of those fox broadcasters who said it best last year, when we are forced into passing situations and the opposing defense knows we need to pass it our offense becomes completely incompetent.

Don't quote me one this but when a team gets a two TD lead on us I believe our record is like 1-20, so either we need to have the lead or we're screwed.

If it was up to me I would draft receiver, o-line, receiver with the first 3 picks, get Cam's so weapons to see if can become an elite passer. Cause as it stands right now the receiving corp is still among the worst in the NFL and we don't what we are getting Oher and Martin.

ignoring BPA doesn't work out.

[csx]

Didn't you make this exact thread last week?

[LinvilleGorge]

Lets be serious for one moment, if we were to redo the draft we would have drafted another receiver instead of Ealy. Ealy was non existent for the majority of the season, no way would we pass Robinson, Landry, Moncrief, Bryant or Brown a second time around with how bad are receiving core was last season. 

 

Let's be serious for one moment, if we didn't have Kony Ealy we'd have Mario Addison penciled in at starting at DE opposite Charles Johnson and DE would be a HUGE need for us right now.  We'd just be shifting the need to another position, a position that IMO Gettleman values over just about everything else except QB.  The guy just gushes about pass rushers.

[scarface]

Didn't you make this exact thread last week?

 

No one agreed with him so he tried again.