Summer 2016 Transfer Window

[Ja Rhule]

Just now, DirtyMagic97 said:

I wish for once one of them would say no.

True but seems staying close to home and playing for top team does the trick for them.

[DirtyMagic97]

3 minutes ago, ARSEN said:

True but seems staying close to home and playing for top team does the trick for them.

Yep. Those Germans love to stay in Germany.

[Goondal]

Dortmund said no when we wanted Lewandowski.  So they kept him for one more year and they got nothing when his contract ended.  Seems getting something with one year left is the better move, especially if they get Gotze back in the deal.

[DirtyMagic97]

 

Dortmund said no when we wanted Lewandowski.  So they kept him for one more year and they got nothing when his contract ended.  Seems getting something with one year left is the better move, especially if they get Gotze back in the deal.

I didn't mean Dortmund, I meant the players. It'd be nice if one of them was just like "Nah, I'm not going to one of my club's biggest rivals."

Alas, the allure of dominating Bundesliga on a yearly basis and potentially winning UCL is too strong a draw.

[Goondal]

 

I didn't mean Dortmund, I meant the players. It'd be nice if one of them was just like "Nah, I'm not going to one of my club's biggest rivals."

Alas, the allure of dominating Bundesliga on a yearly basis and potentially winning UCL is too strong a draw.

Meh, I do not see it as any different than moving to BPL or one of the La Liga giants.  All top players eventually make their way to one of the big clubs.

[DirtyMagic97]

 

Meh, I do not see it as any different than moving to BPL or one of the La Liga giants.  All top players eventually make their way to one of the big clubs.

I view it pretty much the same way as Torres to Chelsea, Sterling to City, etc...but perhaps even worse from Hummels is his condemning of other players in the past for doing the very thing he's about to do. I mean, he was Bayern youth. I get that. But his career was made at Dortmund. It's w/e though. None of my business.

[Goondal]

 

I view it pretty much the same way as Torres to Chelsea, Sterling to City, etc...but perhaps even worse from Hummels is his condemning of other players in the past for doing the very thing he's about to do. I mean, he was Bayern youth. I get that. But his career was made at Dortmund. It's w/e though. None of my business.

You do have a point there.  The same type of hypocrisy is the reason I always disliked Johnny Damon after leaving for the Yankees since he said he never would go there.  

I have never held any ill will towards guys like Ellsbury though, he just did what he felt was best for him.

[DirtyMagic97]

 

You do have a point there.  The same type of hypocrisy is the reason I always disliked Johnny Damon after leaving for the Yankees since he said he never would go there.  

I have never held any ill will towards guys like Ellsbury though, he just did what he felt was best for him.

Yea, I suppose that's my biggest issue with it. I like Hummels a lot though. I think he's a good dude and just wants to win as much as possible while he can.

[Goondal]

I like him as well and hope this Hummels for Gotze swap happens.  I see no reason for it not to.  Bayern seems ready to move on from Gotze anyway and if it is the only way Dortmund will send Hummels our way then it is better than selling him at whatever reduced price he would command.

On the other side, Dortmund understandibly does not want to sell to Bayern and would rather be seen as "standing up to them."  They would be getting Gotze to come home though so it is not nothing in return and they certainly do not want to risk losing him for nothing in a year like Lewy.

[DirtyMagic97]

 

I like him as well and hope this Hummels for Gotze swap happens.  I see no reason for it not to.  Bayern seems ready to move on from Gotze anyway and if it is the only way Dortmund will send Hummels our way then it is better than selling him at whatever reduced price he would command.

On the other side, Dortmund understandibly does not want to sell to Bayern and would rather be seen as "standing up to them."  They would be getting Gotze to come home though so it is not nothing in return and they certainly do not want to risk losing him for nothing in a year like Lewy.

Gotze is an interesting situation. I do believe Dortmund want his return, but the player might be hesitant. He's viewed very, very poorly by Dortmund supporters. Hell, over the last few weeks various "Piss off Gotze" and "Stay away Gotze" banners have been flown at the Westfalenstadion. Gotze may not want to deal. We'll see.

[Goondal]

The fans will forgive him if he comes back and performs.  It is not like he said he was "taking his talents to Munich."

You are correct though, it definitely would make it understandable if he just wanted to leave all of it.

A facinating situation would be:
-Hummels tells Dotrmund that like Lewy he wants to go to Bayern or he will just play out his year and they get nothing.
-Dortmund tells Bayern that they will not give up Hummels without Gotze in return
-Gotze tells Bayern that he does not want to go back to Dortmund
-Bayern tells Gotze that he either goes to Dortmund or stays and plays as a reserve again

Who blinks first?

[DirtyMagic97]

 

The fans will forgive him if he comes back and performs.  It is not like he said he was "taking his talents to Munich."

You are correct though, it definitely would make it understandable if he just wanted to leave all of it.

A facinating situation would be:
-Hummels tells Dotrmund that like Lewy he wants to go to Bayern or he will just play out his year and they get nothing.
-Dortmund tells Bayern that they will not give up Hummels without Gotze in return
-Gotze tells Bayern that he does not want to go back to Dortmund
-Bayern tells Gotze that he either goes to Dortmund or stays and plays as a reserve again

Who blinks first?

Have to imagine Bayern have the power in that negotiation. Bayern ship Gotze elsewhere (plenty of eager clubs), wait one more year for Hummels. Dortmund are out Hummels and get no Gotze return.

[Goondal]

 

Have to imagine Bayern have the power in that negotiation. Bayern ship Gotze elsewhere (plenty of eager clubs), wait one more year for Hummels. Dortmund are out Hummels and get no Gotze return.

Yeah, it would probably never happen outside of the works of fiction.  What would probably happen is Gotze ends up abroad and the question comes down to if Hummels agrees to go elsewhere, Dortmund agrees to send him to Bayern, or we have a repeat of Lewandowski.  Works for me =)

[DirtyMagic97]

Rumors in Germany that Xhaka will stay at Monchengladbach for 1 more season and move to Bayern in 17/18.