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Saints got Dez

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4 hours ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Because he chose not to be. Was offered by at least 2 teams.

He is old, slow, can’t create separation, and is a malcontent.  He had the highest drop rate in the league last year.

There is a reason the Cowboys sent him oackingvwhen they had nothing in the WR cupboard.

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1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Saints wiggled their fingers and found 3.5 million in cap space since this morning, per spotrac.  Were at 400k.  Now at nearly 3.9m.

This is without releasing a player, as they are listed at 54 players with Dez Bryant (no contract details yet).

The salary cap is a joke.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap/

The salary cap has always been a myth 

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14 minutes ago, MadHatter said:

He is old, slow, can’t create separation, and is a malcontent.  He had the highest drop rate in the league last year.

There is a reason the Cowboys sent him oackingvwhen they had nothing in the WR cupboard.

Well, I guess he's our problem now. I remember another WR who had drop problems who's catch % rose by 19 points in NO. 

The Cowboys under Jerry Jones: a model franchise.

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1 hour ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Saints wiggled their fingers and found 3.5 million in cap space since this morning, per spotrac.  Were at 400k.  Now at nearly 3.9m.

This is without releasing a player, as they are listed at 54 players with Dez Bryant (no contract details yet).

The salary cap is a joke.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/new-orleans-saints/cap/

Did the same thing with Terron Armstead that the Panthers did with Addison.

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10 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Did the same thing with Terron Armstead that the Panthers did with Addison.

No...no...no. Only the Saints have special rules that only benefit them. They get to do  things others can’t. Just because I have no understanding of it, doesn’t mean I cant just say whatever I want. What’s wrong with you ;-)

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4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

No...no...no. Only the Saints have special rules that only benefit them. They get to do  things others can’t. Just because I have no understanding of it, doesn’t mean I cant just say whatever I want. What’s wrong with you ;-)

I don't go as far as to say it's a myth, because you have to pay the piper, but money can always be made. If you constantly work the cap, you better draft well, or you get 3 straight seasons of 7-9.

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1 minute ago, saints4lifeagain said:

I don't go as far as to say it's a myth, because you have to pay the piper, but money can always be made. If you constantly work the cap, you better draft well, or you get 3 straight seasons of 7-9.

 Please repeat this as much as possible. 

 I know you see this same complaint all the time on here, but they all forget to mention your records before the 2017 Grand Slam draft. “Why don’t we do that”?...lol

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Just now, Toomers said:

 Please repeat this as much as possible. 

 I know you see this same complaint all the time on here, but they all forget to mention your records before the 2017 Grand Slam draft. “Why don’t we do that”?...lol

Drafting well is a must. I would say the Saints struggled more because of poor drafting than cap restraints, but it goes hand in hand. When you have to make tough decisions about vets, you better have incoming young talent. The drafting before Ireland got here was horrid, and left the cupboard bare. 

Let's be honest as well, a draft like the Saints had in 2017 is once in a lifetime. 4 day 1 starters, at a HIGH level. 5 starters now.

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1 hour ago, Toomers said:

No...no...no. Only the Saints have special rules that only benefit them. They get to do  things others can’t. Just because I have no understanding of it, doesn’t mean I cant just say whatever I want. What’s wrong with you ;-)

I dont think anyone is saying the Saitns have special rules that only benefit them.

But its clear if any team can bypass the salary cap easily, then its a joke.

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29 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Drafting well is a must. I would say the Saints struggled more because of poor drafting than cap restraints, but it goes hand in hand. When you have to make tough decisions about vets, you better have incoming young talent. The drafting before Ireland got here was horrid, and left the cupboard bare. 

Let's be honest as well, a draft like the Saints had in 2017 is once in a lifetime. 4 day 1 starters, at a HIGH level. 5 starters now.

  No doubt. Only class it doesn’t have a shot is the one that was actually my first rookie class. Well, my first game I remember watching was Super Bowl iX(the Steelers first) and they took 4 HOFs in first 5 picks. That’s insane, and will not be done again. But last year could get close. Williams and Ramczek are stuck in positions it’s tough to get in. If we want to jump the gun...lol. 

    And Donnie Shell was an UDFA and a HOF finalist. They pretty much whiffed on the rest of the decade after taking 9 HOFs in 6 years. 

 That’s only 45 years ago. Y’all last year. Somebody is due around 2060.

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