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Full analysis from Joe Person

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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Glitchh Newbie

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One has to take into account how slow Tepper has been to change his Head Coach and General Manager. Will he extend to his starting QB this patience? And how likely is Allen to beat GB, Hawks, Saints twice? If he doesn't split or has a repeat(s) of 49ers is he a real permanent starter candidate?  I've said since Grier was drafted that it could mean Cam was a short timer and still could be but Tepper could give him a play-to-stay season in 2020.

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micnificent28 Mentor

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20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, that's been obvious for a couple of years now.

Not sure what that means... I'm the biggest Cam homer on this board. But I will still be here 20 years from now when Cam is long gone. Doesn't mean I dont love cam and think letting him walk would be a huge mistake.

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Harbingers Grand Master

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1 minute ago, micnificent28 said:

Not sure what that means... I'm the biggest Cam homer on this board. But I will still be here 20 years from now when Cam is long gone. Doesn't mean I dont love cam and think letting him walk would be a huge mistake.

Anyone who doesn’t support their star quarterback is a numbskull(Cam is awesome has been awesome but there’s something behind the scenes we aren’t seeing this season). 

Anyone who doesn’t support the best chance to win a Super Bowl every year is a numb skull(this year is just not Cams year and he isn’t the best chance). 

Anyone who doesn’t support the panthers at the end of the day isn’t a panthers fan. Like you said, he’ll be gone long before I’m not a panthers fan(moving the team is about the only thing that could dissuade me from being a fan. Even with MH at the helm.)

It’s an all around shitty situation. But right now I got my eyes on the prize and Cam simply isn’t part of that this year. 

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2 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Not sure what that means... I'm the biggest Cam homer on this board. But I will still be here 20 years from now when Cam is long gone. Doesn't mean I dont love cam and think letting him walk would be a huge mistake.

It means that this board is increasingly littered with trolls who likely have little interest in the Panthers. They are just here to stir poo up. That should be about as obvious as it comes. 

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3 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

 

More speculation for your reading pleasure...

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-fowler/article237027629.html

Here is my speculation. Allen limps us into the playoffs and we roll CAM out for the WC game because YOLO. And CAM wins the Superbowl on an 86 yard QB draw play with :01 left against the patriots. And we extend him and he wins three more superbowls and goes to the hall of fame. Then unretires and wins one more superbowl. Then gets elected POTUS and brings an unprecedented era of world peace.

That is all.

Based on this board, world peace seems like a bit of a stretch. The rest of it though, sure, sign me up.

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4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

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This feels like the beginning of the end of Cam Newton's time with the Panthers

I'd strongly encourage those of you who are able to do so to read the entire article (it's worth the read) but here are some relevant excerpts:

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The Panthers put Newton on injured reserve Tuesday in a move that ended his season, and very possibly his Carolina career.

Newton will be 31 by the start of next season. He’s undergone two shoulder surgeries in recent years and tried unsuccessfully to fight through a Lisfranc injury this season.

And the Panthers can save $19.1 million against the salary cap by trading or cutting him, which is what the NFL front office personnel I’ve spoken to across the league believe will happen.

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Now it will fall on Hurney, who has vowed not to let his emotions get in the way of his decision-making, and owner David Tepper to make the call on Newton’s long-term future here. And those discussions will certainly include using some of that $19.1 million for a new contract for running back Christian McCaffrey and, potentially, quarterback Kyle Allen.

Allen somehow has gotten overshadowed in all of the speculation and questions about Newton. But the Panthers might have been willing to wait another month on Newton if Allen had bombed his two-month audition behind center.

No, Allen isn’t anything close to the dual-threat athlete that a healthy Newton is. But the second-year quarterback, who never found his footing in college, has displayed a good arm, an ability to read NFL defenses and the confidence of a first-round pick, not an undrafted free agent.

And if you listen carefully to what Hurney and Rivera have said about Allen, who’s 5-1 this year and 6-1 in seven career starts, it sounds like they may view him as more than just a bridge quarterback until third-round pick Will Grier or some other quarterback from the 2020 or ’21 draft is ready.

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Rivera was impressed with the way Allen bounced back from his first bad start — a three-interception, seven-sack game in a 38-point loss at San Francisco. Though Allen overthrew a couple of receivers deep in Sunday’s 30-20 win against Tennessee, he avoided big mistakes, directed a 90-yard touchdown drive and finished with 232 yards and two TDs on 17-of-32 passing.

“Like I’ve always told you, it doesn’t seem like a lot of things faze him,” Rivera said. “He had a good week of practice. I just don’t think it fazed him, I really don’t. He looked confident out there during practice, had a good week.”

Assuming he stays healthy, Allen will have another eight weeks to prove he’s more Jake Delhomme than Matt Moore.

He’ll do so against the meatier half of the schedule, beginning Sunday in Green Bay, but won’t have to wonder when Newton might be back to reclaim the job.

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There figures to be a couple of teams who will look at Newton’s linebacker’s build, the MVP award on his resume and his competitive drive, and decide he has something left. And he very well may.

But as the weeks and wins have stacked up since that fateful August night in Foxboro, it has seemed less and less likely the Panthers will be among them.

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SBiii Newbie

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I am taking the other side of Person's trade.

Assuming Cam gets healthy both physically and mentally I expect him to be in a Panthers uniform next year. 

$21 million is nothing to Tepper and in the short-run and he's not going to let a potentially franchise QB get away over a measly $21 million.

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